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    Windows Live Mail 2012 requires update to keep using it


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    Warning. I applied the update and Windows Live Mail would crash every time I started it. Had to uninstall and reinstall to get back functionality.

    Jerry

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    MS aren't doing very well with their recent email updates! First of all they break Outlook thru Windows Update, now this!

    Sorry Jerry.
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    I couldn't see any time scale for installing the update?

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    I received an email about Outlook.com basically telling me that in a few weeks it wouldn't work with WLM 2012 unless I clicked the link and upgraded. Well, I did click the link and it downloaded and attempted to install KB3093594 but would not install, instead I got a box as per the attached. My WLM is the 2012 version. I've no idea how to find out what version Outlook I am using, so I don't know what to do next!

    I am extremely frustrated about this as I have just spent a considerable amount of time and effort changing my contacts over from Tiscali/Talktalk to Outlook.com because I've changed my ISP and I thought I'd use an email client that isn't tied into my ISP, so I wouldn't have this same task if I change again.

    Am I about to lose access to Outlook.com? If so, I suppose I'll just have to labouriously change everyone over to my new ISP's email address before that happens!
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    I use Windows Live Mail 2011 purely for my ISP's email account, I access my hotmail email account separately through Outlook Mail (which since the change to Preview takes longer to open but such is progress). Both my hotmail account and my other Yahoo email accounts are accessed through bookmarks on my browser.

    Will this affect me?

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    This is the email I received:

    Dear user,
    In a few weeks, we will be making some changes to our email services that might impact your @outlook.com, @hotmail, @live or @msn email account. These changes will prevent your email from being delivered to the Windows Live Mail 2012 application that you use.
    In order to continue using Windows Live Mail 2012 to send and receive email for your account, you need to install the latest update published here.
    If you use Windows Live Mail 2012 on Windows 8, Windows 8.1 or Windows 10, we recommend that you switch to the built-in Mail app in Windows to stay connected and get the latest feature updates on Windows 8, Windows 8.1 and Windows 10.
    Windows Live Essentials 2009 and 2011 are not supported any more, and you will need to update to Windows 8/8.1 or Windows 10 and use the Mail app, or use www.outlook.com. To learn more about the Mail app, please click here.
    We also recommend all Windows Live Mail users on Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 to upgrade to Windows 10 and use the built-in Mail application to stay connected and get the latest feature updates.
    We suggest saving this email so you can refer to it later.
    Thank you for your understanding and continued use.

    Re-reading it now, it looks as though it's only WLM that will be affected, not Outlook.com, so I think I am overreacting and I don't think you will be affected at all since you don't receive any of the specified email services through your WLM.

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    Thanks sylviesinc, that all makes sense as you say. It shouldn't affect me beyond the fact that they're pointing out that my 2011 version is no longer supported anyway.I suppose from a security point of view I should upgrade both my machines to WLM 2012 (along with upgrading my reserve browser from IE9 - also no longer being supported on Windows 7 from next month - to IE11, but I hate upgrading stuff that is working perfectly well - especially when MS's pushing of Windows 10 is mainly behind it! I switched my main browser away from IE a while back and I suppose I should consider Thunderbird or some other mail client too.

    Life is always so much simpler when change isn't forced on one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylviesinc View Post
    This is the email I received:

    Dear user,
    In a few weeks, we will be making some changes to our email services that might impact your @outlook.com, @hotmail, @live or @msn email account. These changes will prevent your email from being delivered to the Windows Live Mail 2012 application that you use.
    In order to continue using Windows Live Mail 2012 to send and receive email for your account, you need to install the latest update published here.
    If you use Windows Live Mail 2012 on Windows 8, Windows 8.1 or Windows 10, we recommend that you switch to the built-in Mail app in Windows to stay connected and get the latest feature updates on Windows 8, Windows 8.1 and Windows 10.
    Windows Live Essentials 2009 and 2011 are not supported any more, and you will need to update to Windows 8/8.1 or Windows 10 and use the Mail app, or use www.outlook.com. To learn more about the Mail app, please click here.
    We also recommend all Windows Live Mail users on Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 to upgrade to Windows 10 and use the built-in Mail application to stay connected and get the latest feature updates.
    We suggest saving this email so you can refer to it later.
    Thank you for your understanding and continued use.

    Re-reading it now, it looks as though it's only WLM that will be affected, not Outlook.com, so I think I am overreacting and I don't think you will be affected at all since you don't receive any of the specified email services through your WLM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Browni View Post
    MS aren't doing very well with their recent email updates! First of all they break Outlook thru Windows Update, now this!

    Sorry Jerry.
    I'm totally confused - been trying to find some information/solution as to why my Outlook (Office 2010) is no longer synchronising Hotmail emails - last one I have in the inbox was 11th December.
    O/S Windows 7 Pro.

    I've tried logging in and out of the online account, but nothing changes in Outlook.

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    Don't install their update, it'll brake your ability to send and receive email for the MS account.
    It looks like they're trying to get rid of the Windows Live Essentials email component in favor of the REALY shitty built in Windows Mail.

    I reinstalled Windows Live Mail to working order, but the calendar in that program might not work properly.


    Avoid Windows Live Mail 2012 patch KB 3093594 -- it freezes Windows

    Windows Live Mail Will Die Without This Update That Cripples It Anyway

    Windows Live Mail 2012 crashes after mandatory update (with fix)
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    Thanks for the warning. It's probably just as well I couldn't get the update to work for me! I have realised that I can still use Outlook.com without the need for WLM and I've downloaded Mozilla Thunderbird now. It warns me that Tiscali/Talktalk mail isn't encrypted but will still handle it (surprisingly I'm still getting emails into this account even though I've left Talktalk), so when WLM goes belly up I'm ready! I suppose I'll have to accept W10 eventually!

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    Yeah, it's the Windows Mail app in Windows Live Essentials they are after for now.
    Hopefully the millions of hard core users will help put the brakes on this nonsense.

    The Windows Mail app that comes as part of W10 has nowhere near the configurability
    and we are sick and tired of MS pushing their crappy & over simplistic Windows store-like apps on us.
    I want a fully functional DESKTOP mail client handler.
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    When I installed the update Windows Live Mail stopped working - I had to do a "System Restore" to get it back to normal - could not get to like the new "Mail" programme.

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    When I install the update I found I could not get full headers on MSN email. The IP info was missing. Spamcop could not process. This happen on two PCs. A system restore to 12/1/2015 fixed the problem for me. Maybe it was malware or the WLM update. I just do not know but now the problem is fixed.

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    Outlook / Hotmail Connector for Outlook 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Pictor View Post
    I'm totally confused - been trying to find some information/solution as to why my Outlook (Office 2010) is no longer synchronising Hotmail emails - last one I have in the inbox was 11th December.
    O/S Windows 7 Pro.

    I've tried logging in and out of the online account, but nothing changes in Outlook.
    It's because you are one of the lucky ones (or unlucky depending upon your point of view) to have your Outlook.com account already migrated across from the Outlook/Hotmail server to Office 365. All users are being transferred over the next few months.

    I've placed a link with more info below, in fact there are 3 great links there.

    In summary, it involves uninstalling the Outlook / Hotmail Connector for Outlook 2010, then rebooting, then adding the account again, but this time selecting Microsoft Exchange Server, or else letting it look-up and find it automatically by itself. Personally I would also create a new profile in Outlook 2010 if you do this, to reduce scope for problems.
    Anyway, those are not full instuctions just a quick overview, the link has much more info.

    I am personally looking forward to having more functionality and compatability concerning aliases, delivery receipts, contact groups and other features not present in Outlook.com.

    Hope this helps.

    http://www.slipstick.com/outlook-user/outlook-com/
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