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    Dual boot-adding W2K

    I have a W98se system and will be using Partition Magic to dual boot to Windows 2000. The question is...the drive is 8 gig and 4 gig or more are already used by W98 and it's data. Is there a bootable partition limitation with W2000? Do I have to resize down the W98 logical drive before installing W2K or will it install after 4gig? I have not partitioned anything yet. I assume it's best to make an additional logical drive instead of an extended drive for W2K? I'd like to share my Outlook 2K with both W98 and W2K. Should it (the pst file) be moved in a separate 3rd logical drive?

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    Re: Dual boot-adding W2K

    Most of the setup you are referring to is a matter of preference. I like to set up a large drive as follows for the multiboot scenario you describe:

    C: -- Windows 9x -- 1GB
    D: -- Windows 2000 -- 2GB
    E: -- Scratch (temp files) -- 500MB
    F: -- Data, including program files -- 4.5GB

    That way my operating systems are completely separate, and if I need to re-install one the applications I use are unaffected. I simply need to re-install within the OS to re-register the product. For you to do something like this would require that you back up anything that you consider critical data, reformat the drive, and partition it. Windows 2000 will handle the setup of dual-booting if it is installed second.

    To answer a question more pertinent to your immediate situation, You aren't in any danger of hitting the boot partition limit of Windows 2000. There is one but I don't recall what the magic number is offhand.

    Lastly, your Outlook PST file could be moved to a centralized location - in the partition arrangement I outlined above, I put My Documents in the F: drive and tell both operating systems to look there for it. In My Documents is a MAIL folder that contains the PST, so regardless of which OS I use it's in the same place.

    Whew! Hope that helps you on your quest!
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    Re: Dual boot-adding W2K

    OK thanks, so I'm considering using Partition Magic to add another logical partition for the data and shared files, etc.(E) and move all the critical data there; then create another logical drive (D) for W2K OS.

    Any problems with that?

    When creating the new partition for W2K, do I need to set it as active?

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    Re: Dual boot-adding W2K

    You should be peachy with that sort of arrangement.....a word of caution, when you set up the Windows 2000 partition - make sure you have enough room to apply a service pack. You'll need enough space for the backed up OS files in addition to the nearly 1 gig that Windows 2000 demands to begin with.

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    Re: Dual boot-adding W2K

    OK, how much space should I leave available for W2K partition then as a min.? and do I set it as "active" when I set up that partition?

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    Re: Dual boot-adding W2K

    That advice is sound. I would just add something that occurred to me reading your post.
    You partition a disk with a Primary DOS partition (which you make 'active' for the disk to be bootable) then make an Extended DOS partition, into which you put your logical drives. You can't have more than one Extended DOS, but by re-partitioning the current one (thus losing all data if you use FDISK) you can re-divide it to take your new drive. Using Partition Magic you do not need to lose data, but pre-backing up is still advisable.
    Once you've got 98 installed, further OSs need to be put in their own logical drives (or at least it's advisable). 2k and above take care of the multiple boot using NTLDR and boot.ini. The procedure should be more-or-less user transparent.
    If you plug in a new physical drive, I believe you can partition it how you like, but don't make the 1

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    Re: Dual boot-adding W2K

    With PartitionMagic I can do any partitioning and resizing without reformating and loosing data. (I will b/u first though.)

    I thought that you can make up to 4 logical drives without having to put them in extended DOS partitions. Is this not correct?

    I want to use PartitionMagic's dual boot system and not the NTLDR.

    I will not be plugging in a separate drive.

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    Re: Dual boot-adding W2K

    Hi
    If you don't put them in the Extended DOS, where else would they go? They can't be in the Primary (I don't think, though I've not tried it). (I am basing most of this on the FDISK procedures, btw). The extended DOS partition is precisely there to do the job you want : install extra logical drives. However, provided there's enough room, you can put as many as you like in there. Once in your OS, it's all user transparent anyway. (Try opening Disk Manager in XP e.g.)
    Partition Magic may have different parameters, but it can't be all that different, as its end products have to be compatible with current arrangements.

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    Re: Dual boot-adding W2K

    I like to leave about 1.5GB if available. That leaves enough working room that you don't cause yourself grief.

    You don't need to set the partition active, as Windows 2000 will overwrite the boot sector with its own code and will be able to find the partition at boot time. One of the few things that 'just works' in the world of Windows if you ask me! <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Dual boot-adding W2K

    I'm working through this now and PartitionMagic created an additional hidden primary partition and didn't even create a drive letter for it.

    I am changing it now to make the new partition a primary partition inside of the extended (I'm still learning all this partition stuff). I'm still unclear as to the difference in a logical vs. primary partition. PartionMagic says that a partition must be a primary partition to be bootable.

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    Re: Dual boot-adding W2K

    Rather than re-hash the whole thing here, let me point you at a very good explanation of the differences between logical and primary partitions:

    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/struct_Partitions.htm>http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/...Partitions.htm</A>

    Only the primary partition on a hard drive can be bootable since that is where the boot sector lives. Windows can be installed on any partition that you choose, but whenever possible I try to install it to C: since many programs that you will install will default to C: anyway. It's easier to go along in this case than to swim upstream!
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    Re: Dual boot-adding W2K

    "install to C:" That's not possible in a dual boot situation. The article from http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/...Partitions.htm is very helpful.

    It comes down to the conclusion of doing either:
    1) c:w98 (primary) d:W2k (primary) e:data (primary)
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    2) c:w98 (primary) d:w2k (primary under an ext. DOS partition e:data (same as d<img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    Looks like it will do the same thing, right?

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    Re: Dual boot-adding W2K

    Indeed it will do the same thing. Neither your programs nor your operating systems will know the difference between the partition types. All you need to do is to make sure you give Windows enough room to do its thing.

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    Re: Dual boot-adding W2K

    Perfect. That answers my question.

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    Re: Dual boot-adding W2K

    I suggest adding another hard drive.
    By the time you install Win 2000, IE, Office, etc, you will rapidly reduce available space.

    My current Win 2000 partiton uses about 4.85 GB out of 7.98GB (according to MyComputer).

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