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    Sticky request

    How about a sticky with a moving list of KBs to hide to discourage a W10 'upgrade/install' ?
    And maybe useful tools like :

    get-hotfix -id KB3035583, KB2952664,KB2976978,KB3021917,KB3044374,KB2990214

    Which returns which ones in the list are installed and dates

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    kb3112343 & KB 3112336 maybe the new ones to avoid/hide.

    http://www.infoworld.com/article/301...indows-10.html


    kb3112343 & KB 3112336 maybe the new ones to avoid/hide.
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    One problem is the updates don't stay hidden. I've hidden KB3035583 more than once on different computers. MS should have a Windows 10 opt out for people that don't want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe S View Post
    One problem is the updates don't stay hidden. I've hidden KB3035583 more than once on different computers. MS should have a Windows 10 opt out for people that don't want it.
    Joe
    The cost of freedom from W10 is constant vigilance!
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    According to the latest newsletter Ms. Bradley is recommending installing kb3112343 & KB 3112336 if offered. They resolve issues with Windows Update and do nothing with regard to upgrading to Windows 10.

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    KB3112343 page...

    This update enables support for additional upgrade scenarios from Windows 7 to Windows 10, and provides a smoother experience when you have to retry an operating system upgrade because of certain failure conditions. This update also improves the ability of Microsoft to monitor the quality of the upgrade experience.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3112343

    KB3112336 page...

    This update enables support for additional upgrade scenarios from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10, and provides a smoother experience when you have to retry an operating system upgrade because of certain failure conditions. This update also improves the ability of Microsoft to monitor the quality of the upgrade experience.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3112336
    Last edited by jwoods; 2015-12-23 at 22:22. Reason: Added links to MS KB pages.

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    They do better prepare your system for a Windows 10 upgrade among other things but do not initiate the upgrade. Without permission, I don't feel I can copy the section of the newsletter which goes into more detail.

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    Woody from the link I posted above.
    - I can't find anything listed in any of the patches from July onward that has anything to do with Windows Update. They're all about Windows 10. Perhaps Microsoft has made some changes to the Windows Update program that would be beneficial to people who don't intend to do an in-place upgrade to Windows 10, but if so, they aren't documented anywhere.

    This is symptomatic of a more insidious disease. Looking back over the past year of patches for both Windows 7 and 8.1, I see fixes for security holes and some minor bugs. But nearly everything else is designed for Windows 10 -- advertising, upgrading, the Get Windows X campaign (coerced or otherwise) -- or for enhanced snooping.

    Did I miss something? Can you find one single patch this year that's designed to improve Windows 7 or 8.1 for regular ol' customers?

    Hit me in the comments.

    However one commenter said:
    I don't know whether Microsoft updated the description for KB3112343, but what I see is pretty detailed. Following the stuff that you quoted about Windows 10, it provides very specific detail about what the update does:

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    Issues that are fixed in this update

    Assume that you use Software Update agent to apply software updates or determine the software update compliance in System Center Configuration Manager 2007 R2. Windows Update agent scans client computers periodically. In this situation, the scan fails and generates a "Not Required" state for all updates. Additionally, you receive an "8007000E" error message.

    Note This issue occurs after you install Windows Update Client for Windows 7: June 2015.
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    That's pretty detailed for Microsoft these days.
    Which is good info to know
    again:http://www.infoworld.com/article/301...indows-10.html

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    If the side effect of these two fixes is that Windows Update runs better on Win7 & Win8.1 I think that is a good thing even if the patches make Windows 10 upgrades easier or more reliable. They still don't start the upgrade process.

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    I installed KB3112343 this morning, and have not experienced any issues so far.

    All GWX Control Panel settings remain unchanged.

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    Will take that under consideration
    David

    Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.

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