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    Using IE 11 to promote Win10 upgrading


    PATCH WATCH



    Using IE 11 to promote Win10 upgrading


    By Susan Bradley

    It's a downpour of Windows and Office patches this month, with many of the common threats reappearing. And Microsoft tries a new tactic for getting Win7 and Win8.1 users to upgrade to Windows 10.

    The full text of this column is posted at windowssecrets.com/patch-watch/using-ie-11-to-promote-win10-upgrading/ (opens in a new window/tab).

    Columnists typically cannot reply to comments here, but do incorporate the best tips into future columns.
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    I new (to me) trick in Windows Update makes it harder to control my, and my wife's, updates. When running in notify mode, if there are updates queued, the shutdown button changes from your default (restart for me) to shutdown with an update icon. Shutdown and you've accepted all the updates!

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    Is that when you have updates set to download but you choose when to install? If so, set them to notify but you choose when to download and install.

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    Susan,
    You show a compatibility upgrade update for Win 7. As someone who signed up for the CEIP but never got involved, I still received one for Win 8.1 this week, which I hid. Looking at my hidden list, the only one of that type showing today is KB2976978. But since that is listed as Feb 20 on MS's website, maybe it's not the one. In any case, would you please explain about these compatibility updates prepping for Win 10 and why you consider them acceptable. Thanks,
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    Hi Susan,
    I wanted to bring to your attention that update 3139940 caused a couple of my older VB6 apps to stop working. One app just immediately ended, with no messages or event log information. Another one gave me the "MSCOMCTL.OCX failed to load imagelist". As soon as I removed the update, all back to normal. Interstingly, the imagelist error has been around for these older VB6 apps on Win8/8.1 and Win10. Seems the imagelist control doesn't like images that are more than the 8bit images. When I lower the images from say 24bit back to 8bit, the app works on Win8/10.
    Thanks for all your hard work in keeping us protected from Microsoft.
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    kb 3080446 and kb 3140410 are giving me a real headache. I'm unable to download them. Did someone else find a way to download these? (This is first time I've ever had this much trouble.)

    Thanks in advance for your help.
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    Satrow,

    Thanks for your suggestion; however, they didn't help. I did find a suggestion for kb 3140410: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ce121e9?auth=1

    The instructions are too advanced for me. If you or someone else could explain this in simpler language (or simplify it), that would be wonderful.
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    You stated that you were unable to download them so I gave you download pages for them. Downloading is one thing, installing them is entirely different, not to mention frustrating sometimes, esp. with MS Updates.

    If you were to give further details, logs, error messages, etc. then someone might be able to help (though update issues are somewhat off-topic here, this article is about upgrading or not).

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    Satrow, that is an excellent question. After trying to find solutions online, I became confused.

    I was unable to download them from the download pages. Then I tried to restore my computer using an image I made earlier. Now when I try to use Windows Update, I get one of two error messages: Windows Update Error message 80070003 or Windows Update error message 80072efe.

    I've tried unsuccessfully to correct these problems using instructions from MS for the respective errors. There are no problems downloading updates for Java, Flash Player, Air, Acrobat Reader, and Shockwave.

    Win 7 SP1, Office 2010 SP2, 4 gb ram, Intel duo core processor T7100.
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    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...#1TC=windows-7
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...fe-or-80072f76
    If the above don't help, your best bet is to ask the Sysnative team to investigate and help you get it sorted.

    Do you really need Java, Air and Shockwave?

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    I tried your suggestion, and I'm no longer getting error messages. Now Windows Update runs for 2 hours and then gives me the updates for February. (Somehow it's gotten rid of my updates for February and is now telling me to install them.)

    I'm going to try the suggestions at http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...a-ae475e6ce1e1 Then I'm going to contact the Sysnative team.

    I'll stay in touch and give you another installment in this continuing saga tomorrow. Thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandor View Post
    Is that when you have updates set to download but you choose when to install? If so, set them to notify but you choose when to download and install.
    Millwood,

    Tandor's suggestion works.

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    Thanks, Satrow, for your help.

    Using your suggestions and the web sites I mentioned solved the problem. Windows Update now runs for two hours or more, but it does find updates. The updates then install.

    Sysnative had an explanation for why Win Update runs so long. It's located at http://www.zdnet.com/article/stickin...alls-for-pain/)
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    Thanks for the update, Charles, glad you have it sorted now. Also thanks to Aura for pointing out the article, I hadn't seen that one.

    KB3083710 and KB3102810 both contain elements directly related to upgrading to W10, so for those of you who do not wish to upgrade, check/block with GWX Control panel after installing them.

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