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    Disappearing Restore Points

    Am I the only one that, for instance, when installing multiple programs, sees RP's being created and then --POOF! -- they are gone?

    And no, this is not involved with an update or upgrade.

    If the RP's aren't going to stay put, what the heck is their purpose or reliability?

    Can the RP's be sent to a non-default location as a backup or something?

    This happened twice today when I specifically went to check. Installed three programs, and had the Task Scheduler set to create an RP every 15 minutes, but when I went looking -- NO restore points!

    Chuck
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    Have you set enough space to retain previous restore points? Once you go over the amount set things will erase themselves.
    see image and slider.
    http://i.picresize.com/UjAr

    the issue can also occur with dual installs, ie,win10 - win7/
    see link for more
    http://www.tenforums.com/performance...ts-killed.html
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    I am right now showing less than 2 gigs used and a 40 gig allocation, and I don't dual boot. Oh well.

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    Chuck: Your experience isn't uncommon - just do a web search on:
    "Windows 10" "Disappearing Restore Points"
    Ironic given one of the touted benefits of upgrading from Win 7 was its susceptibility to the same thing.
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    Paul, working out bugs in a program is SOP...but it has been for W-10 alone, time enugh I would humbly think, for someone to have devised a solution or at least a workaround.

    Sigh...

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    IMHO, neither Win 10 nor Office 2016 were ready for prime time when they were released; both were quite unfinished.

    I'm happy staying with Win 7 & Office 2010 until I'm convinced MS has produced something that suits my needs better.

    As you're probably aware, I do a fair bit of online support work for MS Office (mainly Word). The last year has seen an inordinate number of posts have related to Win 10 upgrades trashing perfectly functional systems (as happened to two of mine) and rendering any version of Office (and other software) inoperable. Likewise, Word 2016 has proven buggy and that's all users seem to be having trouble with - I haven't seen a single post about how to take advantage of any of its claimed new functionality.
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    Paul I am running W-10, albeit not under any high-intensity environment, and still see foibles and hiccoughs. I have been more than half-tempted to revert back, especially to Office 2010, but also to Windows 7 as well. The sparkles of the new toys can be deceptively alluring, and, especially in the case of W-10, one of those situations where one says "This would be REALLY cool -- if it worked to a point that I could truly depend upon it. My posts related to restore points and their unreliable disappearance is a case in point. The case could be presented that many of my issues stem from running "Insider" updates. But that in and of itself begs the question "Why not have *additional* support for backup resources such as restore points, instead of less, where in fact the restore points get erased both by "updating" and by mystical sources and issues as well.

    Asthetics are certainly not the critical piece to a progrram's utility or benefit. But to strip away such, as has happened in the case of Office 2016's metamorphisis from Office 2010, with less than substantial gains, seems to be an attempt to reduce programming time and cost with little if any benefit to the user.

    Luckily I have all my WIndows 7/Office 2010 software if I do decide to back pedal. I am not sure however, if the registration process of Windows 7 would work on my PC since it already has been identified as upgraded to Windows 10, or if it would be locked by Microsoft.

    Would you have any info on this particular piece of the puzzle, reverting back from 10 to 7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWBillow View Post
    Would you have any info on this particular piece of the puzzle, reverting back from 10 to 7?
    The only time I had to do anything remotely like that entailed a fresh install of Win 7 and all apps on 2 PCs the Win 10 upgrade process trashed.
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    But would / do the reg numbers / info work? I tried installing 7 on another machine using my CD's and it was locked because that was the versiob I had been using prior to my "a0" upgrade.

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    @Chuck,

    I recommend you report this behavior using the Feedback Hub. If there are others who upvote your issue Microsoft will most likely act on it.

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    Got it, Joe.

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    Joe, I had it on my Start Menu but it ain't there now. Googlke showed me:
    Go to Settings then System and then Apps & Features.
    Tap or click the Manage Optional Features
    Tap or click Add a Feature.
    Navigate the list, locate Insider Hub, and click install.

    But I'm finding nada...
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    I found it...tx.

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    If you are on a recent Insider build it will be the Feedback Hub. The Insider Hub has been folded into that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWBillow View Post
    I tried installing 7 on another machine using my CD's and it was locked because that was the versiob I had been using prior to my "a0" upgrade.
    Well, if you were trying to re-use in-use Win 7 the Product Key, that would be a license violation. So refusing to accept its re-use under those circumstances would be quite reasonable IMHO.
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    According to the Win 7 EULA:
    UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from.
    This would seem to apply both to upgrades to Win 7 and upgrades from it.

    You can download the EULA from: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/useterms
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