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    Thunderbird and Lightning

    Using Thunderbird 45.0 I have to reinstall Lightning every time I start Thunderbird. Quite unpleasant since it happens from the version that introduced Lighntning as bounded in Thunder.

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    I am using Thunderbird, too, but I haven't tried Lightning. If I had your problem I'd probably backup both applications before I tired to solve the problem (I'd probably just create an image of my C: drive).
    That way, whatever you do can be rectified easily (you can just start over again).
    Backup, backup, backup!

    Is this how you're downloading the Lightning add-on for Thunderbird?
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thu...don/lightning/

    RockE
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    I am a long time Thunderbird and Lightning user. I am using Thunderbird version 45.0 and Lightning version 4.7.

    I have never had a problem with having to reinstall Lightning.

    The homepage for Lightning is https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/projects/calendar

    In my opinion, you should uninstall Thunderbird and install it again with a new download of Lightning 4.7.

    Then run the new install and verify it is working correctly, before restoring any data files. If all is well, restore the data saved as described below.

    All the data files for Thunderbird are stored in (where xxxx is your username):

    C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird

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    C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Local\Thunderbird

    You can backup these folders and be safe to restore them when you re-install Thunderbird and Lightning.

    I hope this solves your problem.
    Last edited by JC Zorkoff; 2016-05-05 at 16:31. Reason: spelling

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    just wondered if you'd considered giving FossaMail a look. It's very similar to Thunderbird and is developed by the same people who develop Pale Moon. it uses its own profile folder on your system, which means it will not interfere with existing Thunderbird installations.

    you can import settings from Thunderbird too, as well as getting a language pack for British English; these are available via 'Tools' on the FossaMail homepage;

    FossaMail


    I've used both FossaMail and Thunderbird on the same PC for some time now with no trouble at all.

    Lightning is available for FossaMail from FOSSHub, the same place as the email program itself. You'd need to get the correct one for your version of FossaMail - 32 or 64-bit. it gives you a calendar similar to the Lightning add-on in Thunderbird.

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    Indeed I use that site to download Lightning, it's the official one.

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    On another PC Lightning is included in Thunderbird and didn't need a separate install.

    I'll try to supress and then reinstall Thunderbird after of course a backup of both directories and tell you what.

    If the problem comes from a bad or corrupted *.js file that will not help...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hqc001 View Post
    Indeed I use that site to download Lightning, it's the official one.

    On another PC Lightning is included in Thunderbird and didn't need a separate install.

    I'll try to supress and then reinstall Thunderbird after of course a backup of both directories and tell you what.

    If the problem comes from a bad or corrupted *.js file that will not help...
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    and quite agree with file possibility. see how it goes.

    btw good call on backing up both directories

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    Hi,
    first of all I have saved the profile directory as "oldprofile", deleted Thunderbird, reinstalled Thunderbird.
    At that time the calendar was present although empty, quite normal.
    Just to be sure I made a copy of the new profile as "newprofile".
    After having copied the content of "oldprofile" to "newprofile" I restarted Thunderbird ... NO calendar to be seen and no mention of Lightning in the extensions ... too bad, but I expected that.

    I finally solved my problem, here is how:
    1. in the copy of "newprofile" find a directory named "extensions"
    2. in that directory find another one called "{e2fda1a4-*****}"
    3. copy that directory to the directory "extensions" of "newprofile"
    4. restart Thunderbird, Bingo : problem solved.

    Hope this can help.

    Thanks to all that helped.

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    Thanks for posting your solution. Perhaps you could explain how you discovered it(?).
    That might help someone else in the future when they run across this thread.

    RockE

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    Thanks cpwilson,
    I finally can dump Thunderbird which is not progressing/updating well recently.
    I now use Fossamail. It looks and feels like Thunderbird, including Lightning.
    I still keep Thunderbird on the PC, just in case, for now.
    The change-over is easy:
    You can do importing from Thunderbird to Fossamail, with some heartburn.
    From web help and forums, you can find easier solutions. One of these is to
    copy over the entire Thunderbird profile folder (that folder name of strange
    character chain). Also copy over the addon folder as well. All your scheduled
    events in Lightning will stay. As cleanup, may uninstall unwanted addons
    from Fossamail. In my case, the classic icon addon is no longer needed.
    The classic look is to change Thunderbird icons from the dreaded default
    grey/black to colorful icons.

    For me, it just works. (The embedded password saver is already copied over.)

    There is one hiccup though about passwords.
    I use randomly generated passwords.
    Some have leading (1st character) special characters, such ".", "#".
    For some reason, the copy-over must have interpreted the special characters
    as the beginning of a program script, and so these passwords are invalid.
    For a few email passwords, I had to re-enter the (same) password,
    then it was all fine.

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    Interesting, first I've heard of this however FossaMail does have a good foundation in 'Pale Moon'.
    FossaMail is an Open Source, Mozilla Thunderbird-based mail, news and chat client for Windows and Linux, brought to you by the Pale Moon developers (and therefore not affiliated with the Mozilla Corporation). It is an alternative version of the Mozilla Thunderbird mail&news client, and based on the Pale Moon browser core.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hqc001 View Post
    Using Thunderbird 45.0 I have to reinstall Lightning every time I start Thunderbird.
    I got fed up with that happening, so I instead installed EPIM (see http://www.essentialpim.com/ ), which runs independently. There are free and paid-for versions. It includes email and other tools but I ignore those.

    Roger

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