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2016-06-08, 09:09 #1
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Crash attempting to run Age of Empires III on Windows 10
First, yes, I do have a legitimate copy.I installed the three disks without any issues, but upon completing the installation process I relaunch the disk and hit play. It displays the loading splash screen then it crashes out with the following message:Age Of Empires 3 Has Stopped WorkingA problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is found [Debug] [Close program].I have tried updating my graphics drivers and loading with (no video).I have tried running compatability settings.I have tried reinstalling many times with a clean install using CCleaner.I ripped the disk and mounted as an iso(appears to work, but same error).Many restarts.It was working on monday night, but tuesday evening when I went to use it, it no longer loaded. No programs were installed or changed, and no updates were installed. Settings are also unchanged. This really confuses me. Am I missing something? Many sites claim it's a compatibility issue with win 7+, but I would think compatability settings would fix that.upon attempting to debug I found this although it appears it may simply be an issue with the visual studio debugger and not the program:Unhandled exception at 0x745D164E (msvcrt.dll) in age3.exe: 0xC000041D: An unhandled exception was encountered during a user callback.
2016-06-09, 10:01 #2
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The problem is with the digital rights management (DRM) software used to prevent piracy. Apparently, all of the old Microsoft game titles and many other titles relied on a DRM DLL which verified that you indeed had a legal copy of the software before running it. That's why you have to have the CD/DVD in the drive before you can play the game, the DRM DLL checked the disk to make sure it had the expected layout. Anyway, at some point in time a KB update from Microsoft removed the DLL form various versions of Windows, and of course that DLL doesn't come with Windows 10. So that is why you are getting an error - the game is attempting to use the DLL that doesn't exist.
According to my reading, getting the DLL is problematic and doesn't appear to work anyway (probably needs to be installed in some fancy way, not just copied to disk). So the best solution I have found is to get a "no-CD" patch - this is a replacement to the EXE file that runs the game where the code to check the CD (the code which relies on the DLL being there) has been removed. I currently have such patches for almost every old game that I have (I keep meticulous notes on what is required to run all of my old games, I still play a lot of them in Windows 10). The best place I have found to download the patch for AoE III is http://www.agecommunity.com/gameUpdates.aspx, this looks like the official support site for AoE III, it provides a lot of game updates, so there should be no security issues such as are present on other sites of this kind.
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2016-06-11, 19:01 #3
Useful info Cafe, thanks. However, Villain said...
Villain, to clarify, you were able to launch, play and exit normally on Monday night, is that right?
tuesday evening when I went to use it, it no longer loaded
I have tried running compatability settings
I think the best general approach for older games is:
Cafe's no-CD advice;
A few old virtual OS's, eg 98, XP, 7.
I doubt MS will be testing Win10 updates on older games before forcing them onto PCs, so a few virtual machines could be the lowest hassle solution if the game isn't available on GOG.Lugh.
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