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    As with summer days, June's patching heats up


    Patch Watch

    As with summer days, June's patching heats up


    By Susan Bradley

    In my corner of the U.S., June is when summer really starts to sizzle.

    But up in the cooler northwest, it's Microsoft that's heating up, with sixteen security bulletins for Windows and Office and many of the fixes are for vulnerabilities we've patched numerous times before.

    The full text of this column is posted at windowssecrets.com/patch-watch/as-with-summer-days-junes-patching-heats-up/ (opens in a new window/tab).

    Columnists typically cannot reply to comments here, but do incorporate the best tips into future columns.

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    I have always installed every update as quickly as possible without any problems. The reason we have updates is to keep people from having viruses. Windows 10 resolves this issue by installing the updates automatically. MS found that the # 1 problem of viruses was people who did NOT install updates. Also, my recommendation is to install Windows 10 on ANY computer which can handle it. It is MUCH better than any other OS which MS has EVER put out, and will make the computer feel new again. Ditch Windows 7 ASAP!!!!

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    "It's a important patch for all versions of Windows from Vista through Windows 10."

    3161664: MS shows no update available for windows 7(?)
    Last edited by Lsimpson50; 2016-06-16 at 08:40.

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    I would be nice to get any on both of my Win 7 laptops

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    I'm tech support for my wife's Win 10 computer (HP Envy 750-129cb). This morning it's display was messed up. The pixel size was correct, but it looked as if it was somehow at a lower resolution. Anyway, the HP support software indicated that a video driver (NVIDIA) needed updating, so I did that and rebooted. No change. The system came with a utility "HP My Display". I opened that. It listed a number of presets. "Text" was selected. I clicked on it and the display problem was immediately fixed.
    So - I assume that the initial problem was that a Won10 update last night broke something, which then triggered a driver update, which then had to be adjusted using the My Display utility. However, that is just based on the timing.

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    I would be nice to get any on both of my Win 7 laptops
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    So you can't get any security updates at all? My W7 computers went from hours on end to finding the updates in 40 mins. to 1 hr.

    3161664: MS shows no update available for windows 7(?)
    KB3161664 showed up on every W7 computer I have. Have you tried downloading it from the MS catalog site http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/home.aspx ?
    Last edited by lumpy95; 2016-06-16 at 16:00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djohnson View Post
    I have always installed every update as quickly as possible without any problems. The reason we have updates is to keep people from having viruses. Windows 10 resolves this issue by installing the updates automatically. MS found that the # 1 problem of viruses was people who did NOT install updates. Also, my recommendation is to install Windows 10 on ANY computer which can handle it. It is MUCH better than any other OS which MS has EVER put out, and will make the computer feel new again. Ditch Windows 7 ASAP!!!!
    Feel free to keep believing that. The rest of us will continue to run anti-virus programs for protection against viruses while taking expert advice (thanks again Susan!) on when and how to handle the monthly updates, most of which protect our computers but some of which break them while others are entirely unrelated to security issues. As for Windows 10, the description "better" is entirely subjective and it isn't a term I'd personally use.

    Apologies for not typing this in bold font but I didn't feel that it was as important as you obviously considered your post to be !

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumpy95 View Post
    @Sudo15
    So you can't get any security updates at all? My W7 computers went from hours on end to finding the updates in 40 mins. to 1 hr.


    KB3161664 showed up on every W7 computer I have. Have you tried downloading it from the MS catalog site http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/home.aspx ?
    I've just opened a new thread with my problem - MGADiag

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    After your MGADiag thread, did you start getting updates?

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    Thanks Lunpy95. MS catalog site did have the update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumpy95 View Post
    After your MGADiag thread, did you start getting updates?
    No.

    I ran the Windows Repair program from www.tweaking.com but the laptop just kept freezing up after the reboot to the point where it wasn't even loading the drivers.

    After booting up into Safe Mode to use the program's registry restore, I ran the update component reset again and the irreparable error changed to 80070005.

    I installed the SubinACL file and ran a couple of batch files I'd found online and the largest of the batch files produced a log where about 60% of the permission resets failed.

    I activated the hidden admin account and ran the batch file again with similar results.

    I've had this Windows Update problem even after a factory reset.

    I've been thinking about posting my problem on the Sysnative forum to see if anyone on there can help.

    I have some cmds I can run which will revert Win 7's system files to defaults, which I presume will be pre SP1, but the last time I ran those for a try out, the laptop seemed quite sluggish.

    I seem to be at a dead end with this one.

    SURT won't complete because it fails by not being able to install some files - no doubt because of the update problem and a repair install also fails because it can't search online for installation files.

    The onboard WU trouble shooter just hangs at searching for updates on the computer and the fact that wuauserv is maxing out the CPU and a memory leak doesn't help either.

    I can stop that service but that's a Catch22 and I don't have any hair left to pull out

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    Wow, what a mess . It sounds like the OS itself is screwed up somehow or if it's an OEM ( Toshiba, HP, etc. ) possibly interference from their pre-loads. Too bad you don't have a spare W7 disk to install and bypass any OEM bloatware.
    Is it possible that your AV could be playing a part in this?
    Just grasping at straws here as you are better at this than I am.

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    I do have a Win 7 SP1 universal ISO and I've used the Slui 3 cmd to change the laptop product key to the COA sticker key, but I'm not sure if it would activate a clean install.

    That isn't guaranteed to work either though, as I've factory reset this Toshiba machine with a bought Toshiba OEM Recovery Disk.

    The MGADiag gives it as a genuine install and the clock is okay, so they won't be causing the problem and I don't think I had Norton Security installed when it first had the update problem - but I may disable it to see if it makes any difference as that had crossed my mind.

    The fact that the permission reset batch file failed with so many files is a concern, that I feel I'm up against a brick wall with this.

    It's just a pity that Windows Update doesn't work in Safe Mode with Networking - my msconfig is stripped to the bone so it won't be any other 3rd party programs.
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    Have you tried chkdsk to see if there might be a problem with the HDD? chkdsk /r or chkdsk /f

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumpy95 View Post
    Have you tried chkdsk to see if there might be a problem with the HDD? chkdsk /r or chkdsk /f
    Tried a few times - no problems.

    I may factory reset it again next week and then see what errors the update settings etc. return and then I can run the fixes in as a vanilla mode as possible.

    I created a system image after the last time I factory reset after removing the bloatware, so I don't have to go through that again.

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