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    Just got notified of KB3150513, anyone?

    Web says Windows Compatibility thing, but I'm leery.

    Anyone get this notice? I've GPE'd my system so I don't have to if I don't want. I haven't done AU yet either because it hasn't been offered.

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    Woody has something to say about this on 4th May, mostly relating to Windows 8.1.

    As to you having "GPE'd your system", I have looked at the Wikipedia disambiguation page, but am sadly none the wiser... Are you talking about GWX Control Panel or GRC's Never10, both of which are redundant as from 29th July?
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    Sorry for my written shorthand. I edited my system using the Group Policy Editor...GPE'd is so much easier to say so updates aren't force fed

    My system is not Win 8.1, but Win10 which has me wondering why I got it at all and what makes me leery

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    From this article, I'm wondering if it is for an ease of upgrade to the AU as quite a few still haven't gotten it through WUs, but it does look like it will also do a certain amount of spying, especially for the older versions of Windows where it is too late for the free upgrade to Win 10.

    Others may have a different understanding of the article to me though.

    http://borncity.com/win/2016/09/01/u...-110-08312016/

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    I asked @ Woody's.....his note and some replies; nobody seems to know much about the update. Not inclined to be made an example of, thank you very much.

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    Well, unless you can defer it, then you will eventually get it in Win 10.

    Perhaps this is MS's fight back to counter everyone (or almost everyone) flicking the Off switches on their info gathering in Win 10

    What did you make of the article I'd posted ?

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    I read the article you posted. Doesn't tell us much does it.

    I am no expert, by any cyberstretch of the imagination, but doesn't the vague language make you wonder whether or not checking up is being done to see if AU has been installed? I have flicked my off switches and quite frankly am going to hate the thought of losing that ability after AU. I thought I read that the ability to use the Group Policy Editor in Pro will go away after AU. All I can say is go EFF.

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    Well given the control MS now has over Win 10 users, they probably have a bigger EFF

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    Here's part of the introduction in the KB article:

    "This update provides the latest set of definitions for compatibility diagnostics that are performed on the system. The updated definitions will help enable Microsoft and its partners to ensure compatibility for all customers who want to install the latest Windows operating system. Installing this update also makes sure that the latest Windows operating system version is correctly offered through Windows Update, based on compatibility results. "

    Based on that I'd install the fix. I'd rather have some assurance that the AU will be compatible.
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    I would think Win 10 users will get it auto but it doesn't really explain why Win 7 and 8.1 users should be getting it.

    I haven't received it on this Win 7 laptop yet, but I may have confused MS because I upgraded this to Win 10 last year but because it didn't work out, I reverted to Win 7 via a factory reset.

    EDIT - That's why I haven't or not likely to be offered it - I was constantly hiding KB295664 which was one of the Telemetry updates in the push to get Win 10 onto machines whether the users wanted it or not.
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    Just an FYI...I'm reading mail in Thunderbird this morning; my screen gets darker and I get a popup...."Windows Updates are required. Download updates." I have no choice bit to click on the button to get the download because there's no other way to get rid of the screen.

    I'm taken to the Windows update screen and it shows KB3150513, but I still have to click on the button to download the KB. I'm not liking this behavior much. I'd bet this popup is going to appear every time I bootup and maybe more times during the day. It made me feel guilty.
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    I received it the other day on my W10 ver. 1511 HP laptop. I deferred upgrades to stop the AU so far, at least until MS irons out some of the known problems. There seems to be no ill effects so far from the KB3150513 update but my guess is that it is more spying.

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    I just find interruption of reading email by dimming my screen and telling me an update is required massively intrusive and not necessary although I'm sure MSoft is worrying about me more than they have to.

    I absolutely think you're right about more spying. At least when I went to the windows update screen they didn't push the download button on my behalf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeachesP
    At least when I went to the windows update screen they didn't push the download button on my behalf.

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    I also got KB3150513 on my Windows 10 1511 computer. I am holding off for now. It came at a non-standard time, and the information given about it does not give me comfort that I need it. By the way, I am using a different way to control Windows 10 updates that I think gives me more control. In Group Policy Editor, select "Notify me to download and install" rather than the defer option. You will get that annoying message mentioned that makes you go to the update settings screen from time to time. Beyond that, download a Microsoft diagnostic called wushowhide.diagcab. Run it and select hide updates. It sometimes takes a while, but it will come back with a list of updates ready for you (and sometimes ones not offered) and let you select to hide them individually. Select to fix, and it should tell you it has fixed or hidden the updates you selected. I did that for KB3150513, and a few days later it disappeared from my Windows Update list and I stopped getting the message the Updates are Ready. There may be some downfalls with this approach, but I have not seem them. The following article explains everything:
    http://techgage.com/article/taking-b...ws-10-updates/

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