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    Question About Three Security Programs

    Years ago, these three security programs were a part of my "security toolbox" on my Windows machines:

    1. Spybot S&D (free edition)

    2. Lavasoft Ad-Aware (free edition)

    3. ZoneAlarm Firewall (free edition)

    Is there any reason to still use Spybot S&D and/or Lavasoft Ad-Aware, or has Windows Defender, Malwarebytes, and other security software replaced the need for it?

    Is there any reason to use ZoneAlarm firewall, or is Windows Firewall sufficient for solid firewall protection?

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    1. Spybot S&D (free edition)
    I used 1.62 and 2.x for some time; finally gave them up. Spybot has not quite kept up, there are a few others that have surpassed Spybot in getting things done.

    2. Lavasoft Ad-Aware (free edition)
    I have no knowledge of this anymore; used it awhile during my WFW311 days. Never since then.

    3. ZoneAlarm Firewall (free edition)
    This is a good firewall, it is only beat by Windows built-in firewall for EZ-set & EZ-maintain.
    To me, ZoneAlarm and Comodo Firewall are very good at what they do. Avoid the Internet Suites, tis better to pickNchoose the best AV, AM, etc.

    Is there any reason to still use Spybot S&D and/or Lavasoft Ad-Aware, or has Windows Defender, Malwarebytes, and other security software replaced the need for it?
    MSE for Windows 7 & earlier; WD for Windows 8 & 10 does very well; MSE & WD can be beat by strict AV programs that are not SwissArmyKnives.

    Is there any reason to use ZoneAlarm firewall, or is Windows Firewall sufficient for solid firewall protection?
    I believe for home use, Windows Firewall is all that is needed. If an techie end-user wants to "see behind the curtain", download and install Windows 7 Firewall Control [was free, maybe still is free? I have the pay-for-once version] -- it's meshes nicely with Windows Firewall and can let tech end-user tweak to his/her heart's content.

    The above are definitely for home and small office usage.
    I think for businesses, corporations, nationwide-businesses, industries, colleges, universities, and other heavy-hitters -- I would seriously consider consulting with some business and some educational entities and find out what they are using; some are using enterprise-level security program.
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    Thanks for the info! I won't get back into using Spybot S&D and Ad-Aware. Seems they're "past their prime" for mainstream use.

    Since I have a hardware firewall on my router (Cisco Small Business Router), should I just stick with Windows Firewall vs ZoneAlarm?
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    ZoneAlarm also blocks outgoing software - or it used to when I used it. This may be of value to you, if not stick to Windows Firewall.

    cheers, Paul

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    Sounds good. I'll re-visit the website and see if I should download it or stick with Windows Firewall. Windows Firewall feels solid at the moment, so I may just keep running with it. Thanks for the info!
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    If you use ZA's firewall make SURE that it doesn't stuff everything through it's DNS server! I don't know if they still do that or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul T View Post
    ZoneAlarm also blocks outgoing software - or it used to when I used it. This may be of value to you, if not stick to Windows Firewall.
    I think Windows blocks outgoing too. Re Vista/Win7 version:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiki
    Outbound packet filtering, reflecting increasing concerns about spyware and viruses that attempt to "phone home". Outbound rules are configured using the management console. Notifications are not shown however for outbound connections.
    I assume Win10's firewall hasn't removed outbound checking, but I don't know for sure.
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    Win 10's firewall has outbound rules that can be user configured.

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    Sounds good. I may just stick with Windows Firewall, especially since it does Outbound. I also have some additional firewall protection that works with Windows Firewall inside Webroot. If I used a third-party firewall, I would need to adjust DNS settings. I use OpenDNS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan Parker View Post
    I use OpenDNS.
    Fyi OpenDNS is now owned by Cisco, so keep an eye open if you use a different brand of comms gear--reasonable to expect it'll be optimized for Cisco's gear.

    Fyi2 if you have a significant firewall need, there's a category of gear which provides a more robust hardware firewall.

    Fyi3 it's probably a good idea to configure your firewall to make your network 'invisible' from the outside--something I recall reading, and it sounded like good advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lugh View Post
    Fyi3 it's probably a good idea to configure your firewall to make your network 'invisible' from the outside--something I recall reading, and it sounded like good advice.
    This is discussed by Steve Gibson at his Shields Up website HERE

    This is a good test to see if you are actually "invisible" from the outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lugh View Post
    Fyi OpenDNS is now owned by Cisco, so keep an eye open if you use a different brand of comms gear--reasonable to expect it'll be optimized for Cisco's gear.

    Fyi2 if you have a significant firewall need, there's a category of gear which provides a more robust hardware firewall.

    Fyi3 it's probably a good idea to configure your firewall to make your network 'invisible' from the outside--something I recall reading, and it sounded like good advice.
    Great points. I use Cisco gear as well, so OpenDNS+Cisco gear should play comfortable with each other. I've considered a more robust hardware firewall but haven't been sure where to start. I don't want to end up breaking my network while I'm at it. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC Zorkoff View Post
    This is discussed by Steve Gibson at his Shields Up website HERE

    This is a good test to see if you are actually "invisible" from the outside.
    Thanks. Will check this out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC Zorkoff View Post
    Steve Gibson at his Shields Up website HERE

    This is a good test to see if you are actually "invisible" from the outside.
    Ah, that was it! Good to see I'm still invisible.

    For anyone wondering, it's a simple click-a-button test which takes 10-15 seconds.
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