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    Question fossamail?

    hello from copenhagen denmark.
    I was wondering if some of you have tried fossamail a thunderbird replica in allmost anyway,but optimized by moonchild production.
    I use it as my default mail software.
    What mailclient do you use if any.

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    I've tested it a couple of times but not recently but I really don't use email clients. Fossamail seemed to work as expected

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    I use Outlook 2007 when I am in Windows, and Thunderbird when I am in Linux. One of these days I plan to drop Outlook and go with Thunderbird in Windows - I'll probably do that when Outlook 2007 is no longer supported by Microsoft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isaccasi View Post
    I was wondering if some of you have tried fossamail a thunderbird replica in allmost anyway,but optimized by moonchild production.
    If you search the forum for fossamail, I think you will see it mentioned from time to time. Those threads will probably give you a good cross section of what people are using.
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    Email Clients, a subject close to my heart which causes me no end of aggravation.

    There used to be many clients which were genuine equals / betters for email than Outlook. There was The Bat, Courier Mail, Pegasus, a few others and of course Tbird and it's derivatives (which was never as good as Outlook even at its very best around 2008). There were also a lot of kiddie mail clients heavy on html and pretty pictures of unicorns that came groaning under the weight of junk and spam built in.

    Today there are a lot of half baked clients that do nothing well and try to take over years of carefully crafted email folders and rules and screw it all up, Outlook.com for a start is fine if you have one email address but when you have 20 it is virtually useless, Tbird OK for a few accounts no good for multiple accounts, various others promise much and deliver little. Apple's Mail is rubbish as is Gmail because personally I want my mail client on my PC and my archives stored locally and backed up locally not on some cloud server at the whim of FaceBook, Google, Yahoo, Amazon - whatever.

    So what do I use now - on this i-MAC I tried everything available (clients not cloud based) and eventually went with Airmail after months of not very good and definately tedious Tbird. Airmail is merely the least worst of a bunch of pretty mediocre clients that will work on Apple, I believe they are porting it to Windows and have promised to add the features I want which are mainly customisability and proper rules functions not mickey mouse ones that don't work half the time - we shall see. My Windows 7/ 8 /10 machines have as of last month been relagated to secondary roles because Microsoft has taken away my control and replaced it with updates that uninstall software MSFT does not like, silmultaneously cramming it with horrible apps I do not want and never asked for - causing lots of cursing and extra work fixing the things back the way they were with the result that they now do no production at all and are being replaced with i-MACs rapidly. This time next week there will be 2 Windows machines left both running Win8.1 with updates disabled (I will do manual updates with work's enterprise patches and avoid Windows Update altogether). I am keeping one as a backup for Microsoft work, files, backup and test purposes which uses Outlook 2007 but mainly for reliably archiving existing mail downloaded on my primary i-MACs. The other is the other half's ancient Laptop and she won't let me prise it out of her clutches and give her a Macbook Pro so that's staying as well.

    So I will have a look at Fossamail but as it is a Tbird clone I doubt it will impress me much but I am desperate enough to try anything at this point - I suspect the only answer is to buy several copies of Office Enterprise 2016 and have done with it because there appears to be virtually no choice these days for consumer level email clients other than minimalist trinkets like Outlook.com and Apple Mail. They all either have too much complexity in the wrong place like elaborate and useless automatic sorting or not enough complexity to the point where you cannot have your own folders because the client looks after everything.

    The one bright shining star of email in the last 20 years I guess now has bee, in my not so humble opinion - Mailwasher Pro. Unfortunately it is a mail preview server controller not a mail client as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isaccasi View Post
    hello from copenhagen denmark.
    I was wondering if some of you have tried fossamail a thunderbird replica in allmost anyway,but optimized by moonchild production.
    I use it as my default mail software.
    What mailclient do you use if any.
    I recently installed Fossamail on a spare machine, so I would have an alternative if Windows Live Mail became unavailable for Windows 10.
    I find it a very good email client and installation/set up etc. was very easy.
    I used Fossamail over Thunderbird because there is a 64 bit version.

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    I've used Pegasus since the late 1980s or early 1990's with total satisfaction. Meets Jonah's local storage requirement and has all the bells and whistles such as spam filtering one could desire. I don't actually use them since I've been using MailWasher for almost as long.

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    I will have another look at Pegasus I think I last tried it some years ago and was not massively impressed. I bet it don't run on Macs though and I will have a look at Fossamail today as well. The ideal would be a competent Windows / Mac crossover client or I guess I could set up my own server on a redundant windows machine, which would actually make sense. I just find it so ridiculous that after using Windows for nearly 30 years I am forced to go to Mac and I can't find a decent client (Office Professional Plus on a Mac is not the same it does not have all the same options for customization).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonah8208 View Post
    The ideal would be a competent Windows / Mac crossover client or I guess I could set up my own server on a redundant windows machine, which would actually make sense. I just find it so ridiculous that after using Windows for nearly 30 years I am forced to go to Mac and I can't find a decent client (Office Professional Plus on a Mac is not the same it does not have all the same options for customization).
    For E-Mail have a look at SeaMonkey [from Mozilla], it works on Windows, Mac and Linux and has a built-in E-Mail Client under Tools on the Toolbar.

    There was an E-Mail Client with Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac called Entourage which worked fairly good but with Office 2011 for Mac it got changed to Outlook. Outlook did not come with the Home and Student version of Office 2011 I have on my MacBook Pro.

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    For many years, I and millions of other Windows users, have used the Email Program that came with Windows.
    It was called Outlook Express. It was user friendly, simple to set up and just Worked.

    In MS Vista, our old favorite got a facelift and was re-named to Windows Mail. Same great program, with a new name.

    In Win-7, 8, 8.1, and Ten, Windows mail is still there in the installed program files, but MS in their infinite wisdom (?) has disabled it, so we can't use it. That's what THEY think!

    Re-enabling Windows Mail in Win-7 to 10, is as simple as deleting the files in the Windows Mail folder and replacing them with the same files from Windows Vista.

    I've evaluated many of the other email programs that I've seen mentioned here and on other forums, and I find them all seriously wanting. For me, Windows Mail gets the job done and it never gives me any grief.

    A program that is the closest to Windows Mail, is "OE Classic". It's a great little program that shows great possibilities
    but falls just short of a perfect replacement for Windows Mail. But it does bear watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho View Post
    Re-enabling Windows Mail in Win-7 to 10, is as simple as deleting the files in the Windows Mail folder and replacing them with the same files from Windows Vista.
    That sounds good! But how or where would I get the Vista files? I don't have Vista and don't know anyone still uses it. Would Windows updates come through for this reanimated program? How about security? Just wondering because I'd like to try this on my Win 7 machine. Thanks.

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    Thanks for the feedback guys, I have original copies of Win Vista I can install on a VM and transfer the files to dropbox if anyone wants to try Dr Who's trick PM Me. In fact I have isos of every Windows OS since 98SE stashed. I will try Seamonkey and Fossamail on the macs but for now I am using Mailwasher and Outlook 2007 on an old Win7 Box, this must change!

    Sorry Isaccisa I appear to have hi-jacked this thread a bit 8-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by isaccasi View Post
    ...What mailclient do you use if any...
    I don't remember just when I first started using the Internet/email; I don't think I tried it in Win3.1 - probably about 1995 in Win95 which had Outlook Express. I continued to use OE through Win98/98SE and WinXP until upgrading to Vista (after SP1 was released) which had Windows Mail.

    OE and Windows Mail did everything I wanted so I saw no good reason to use any 3rd-party email program during those times.

    After Win7 SP1 was released I upgraded from Vista (SP2 by then) and began using Windows Live Mail 2011 but gave up on that after about six months being fed up with being nagged to sign into a M$ account to send emails w/ attachments. I had seen many positive comments about Thunderbird so gave it a try and have been using it ever since w/ no real problems.

    As a technician I regularly assist customers w/ their email. FWIW in my opinion these days Thunderbird is about as-good-as-it gets these days for most users, MS Outlook is OK (but not very user-friendly for home users), and Win10's "Mail" client is all-but-useless.
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    Hey Coochin

    My first computer was the size of a aircraft hanger in the L1 building in London in the early 80s, first home PC was a Commodore 64 in 85 / 86 I think. In aviation we had, maybe they still do, a code for strange transient unrepeatable gripes and more obvious pilot errors which are blamed on the kite. The code was "SSIU" (Stick Seat Interface Unit), we used to put that in the logbook so the crew chiefs would know to be more skeptical than usual about stuff like gear sticking, instrument failure etc. when dealing with certain pilots.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_West_Drayton

    Anyway email wise I just don't like Thunderbird, it was ok on Windows some years ago but never had the flexibility of Outlook, that is just my opinion, many love it and that's fine. I will use Tbird if there is nothing else better (for MACs or x platform) but there really isn't much any more, they are all very similar. I suspect I am going to have to set up a proper server which is a sledge hammer to crack a nut, otoh I suppose I get more control over Windows Updates. Bit late now I am committed to MACs with Windows in a secondary backup role I just had no idea how bad email clients for MAC were it had not occurred to me there would be any problems transfering my email system to MACs.

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