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    Slow Windows Update - AGAIN

    I thought the very slow Windows Update issue was settled. Several months ago, I read and followed the german link: http://wu.krelay.de/en/ (which has not been updated since July). My Windows 7 desktop (64 bit) would start downloading updates within minutes. My Win 7 laptop (also 64 bit) would take a few hours, but it would finally start. This all worked consistently until yesterday.

    Yesterday evening (Nov. 10) I tried to update my desktop. After 4 hours and nothing downloaded, I aborted, rebooted the computer, and tried again. It ran 6 hours, and again, nothing. So I went to the laptop and tried there. For the laptop, I reduced to two (about 60 MB total) the number of files to be downloaded, so the download would be small. So far it has been running about 12 hours, and nothing.

    Has anyone else experienced this problem recently, and if so. what is the fix?


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    krelay.de not been updated? http://wu.krelay.de/en/ looks fine to me.

    Sticky in this forum section: http://windowssecrets.com/forums/sho...slow-downloads

    Sticky in the General Windows section: http://windowssecrets.com/forums/sho...Updates-issues

    Several other discussions too.

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    It's a distinct possibility that it could be MS servers sometimes.

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    In my (recent) experience you may have to leave the PC on for over a week to get the latest updates.

    My last round of updates downloaded at about 400 BPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satrow View Post
    krelay.de not been updated? http://wu.krelay.de/en/ looks fine to me.
    You are correct--but it didn't seem to show that yesterday when I looked.

    Sticky in this forum section: http://windowssecrets.com/forums/sho...slow-downloads

    Sticky in the General Windows section: http://windowssecrets.com/forums/sho...Updates-issues

    Several other discussions too.
    WOW. Thanks so much for this, although it is too much info for an old guy like me. I went to the (High CPU & memory usage) link. The author doesn't specify how much CPU usage is too much, but on my desktop, is 25% CPU and 137 MB.

    It appears like the wu.krelay.de solution and the Microsoft solution at
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3200747 follow the same procedure, although the krelay Stack Updates are more up to date. So I will follow it, although krelay never says to change the settings to 'Never check for updates' before proceeding, like Microsoft does.

    Harry

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    The krelay site might have been problematic over the last day or two Harry, I later saw a couple of posts (in German) that looked that way, seems there's an alt./backup page now as well: http://wu2.krelay.de/en/

    25% usage means you have a quad (or dual with hyper threading) core CPU Memory usage will depend on how much is installed.

    Yes, most of the 'fixes' have become very similar over the last few months, the important thing is to disable/kill WU at the right point, enable it at the right point, reboot at the right point, study it carefully (though your comment suggests you already have) and follow it to the letter, 10-20 minutes and you should be downloading updates again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satrow View Post
    Yes, most of the 'fixes' have become very similar over the last few months, the important thing is to disable/kill WU at the right point, enable it at the right point, reboot at the right point, study it carefully.
    I think I have it, and the results are amazing! I first went to http://wu.krelay.de/en and downloaded the latest highlighted Servicing Stack Update and Rollup. Then I created a Restore Point. Finally I installed them following the procedure outlined at https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3200747, which I thought was clearer to understand.

    When I ran Windows Update on my desktop (which has a SSD drive) after the above, here is what I got.
    Time to check for Updates [I use the 'check for updates but let me choose....' option] (~1:30)
    Time to find and download the 12 updates I selected (< 0:20)
    Time to install the updates on the computer (< 5 minutes)
    MY CPU usage is now about 1%.

    My laptop has a conventional hard drive and a slower processor, so each of it's steps took about 3 times as long--but not bad.

    I do have two questions:
    1. I assume I need to keep checking the krelay site for new updates?
    2. The article at http://www.tweaking.com/forums/index....html#msg34782
    says the steps must be executed under the Administrator account. Microsoft did not mention this, and I did not do it. I am the only user of my computer.

    Thanks again for all of your help on this problem. It makes one wonder why M'Soft did not get it right, rather than putting users through all this hassle?

    Harry

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    Good to see that you cracked it (for this month?), Harry

    MS must have been aware of these issues for the last 18 months or so, the official fix is so recent that one would expect there to have been *something* to have been behind it, especially as changes were needed by those affected every month. How WU will work in the future is anyone's guess - but WU has changed hugely in the past few weeks - choice is now very limited, many will now focus on how frequently MS issues 'bad' updates that can't be avoided without being forced to also avoid 'good' updates.

    I'd keep checking Dalai/krelay for news, if it worked without invoking the main Administrative account, then it might not need it (now)
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    - @HMW: whether or not one must use the Administrator account is "up in the air". I have seen people who weren't able to apply the instructions in my guide (over there at "Tweaking.com"), when they were using the User account. So, I thought it was best to insist on using the Administrator account.
    - A LOT OF people think that they're using the Aministrator account when in fact they're using a User account. Even when one has only account activated.

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    I am a user on a large company network using Windows 7 Enterprise. Updates are signaled by the System Administrator. When activating the update, the updates are downloaded and installed in just a few minutes. Then the terminal displays 'Wait while your Computer is configured for this update - do not turn off your computer'. (or words to that effect)

    After 6 hours of this message being displayed on the terminal I gave up and hit 'Ctrl-Alt-Delete' the screen then went to the normal sign in screen. ????????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmi16 View Post
    I am a user on a large company network using Windows 7 Enterprise. Updates are signaled by the System Administrator. When activating the update, the updates are downloaded and installed in just a few minutes. Then the terminal displays 'Wait while your Computer is configured for this update - do not turn off your computer'. (or words to that effect)

    After 6 hours of this message being displayed on the terminal I gave up and hit 'Ctrl-Alt-Delete' the screen then went to the normal sign in screen. ????????????
    My guess would be that it is an internal problem since most "Company's" have an IT Dept. that downloads, tests, and then releases the updates to the various users in the company.
    I can only guess since Company's have different policies.

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