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    Running Multiple Security Software

    Hi Gang,

    I'm well aware of the pitfalls of running more than one Antivirus on any operating system and that there are several posts on this forum warning against such a practice that I fully agree with.

    That said however, after several months of testing on multiple platforms, I have confirmed that the following two products run perfectly well with most Antivirus applications side by side with real time protection available on all.

    • Malwarebytes (Premium)
    • SuperAntiSpyware


    I've tested these with the following AV products - Norton 360, Avast (all versions), Vipre (all versions), Others..

    These have not just been installed on my own boxes, but I've also installed on at least 50+ of my business clients workstations running Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 and not a single complaint about slow downs or any other issues. Some minor tweaking of Norton 360 was required after installation, however both Avast and Vipre didn't require any tweaking at all to run well with both MB and SAS with default values. I can only assume the same would be true for any Antivirus product.

    During my testing phases and using a VM of all 3 of the above operating systems, I went to known infected web sites that distribute various forms of Malware, (including Ransomware scripts) that the Antivirus didn't prevent an infection, yet either Malwarebytes Premium 3.x or SuperAntiSpyware successfully blocked the infections every single time. The same is true for emails I sent to my test VM's with infected attachments which I purposely ran.

    So there you go folks. I'm huge on protecting both myself and my clients as best I can and the above combination has worked extremely well for me. If you're of the same mind, give it a try. Fully functional Trial versions of all applications listed are available for download from their respective sites.

    Disclosure Note: My company is an affiliate and/or re-seller of the products listed in this post, yet rest assured that this is not a ploy to drum up sales for myself. However as a service to the members of this forum, if you want to save 30% on the purchase of SuperAntiSpyware after you try it, feel free to Private Message me and I'll purchase the license on your behalf and pass on the purchase cost saving to you.

    Direct links to the manufacturers websites of the two products listed in this post are as follows;



    Cheers..

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    How do they interact with Trend Micro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjimphelps View Post
    How do they interact with Trend Micro?
    I can't confirm one way or the other with Trend Micro sorry as that's one AV I didn't test with. Suggest you use the Trials to try them out?

    Best..

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    SpywareBlaster has never collided with any of my security and monitoring program, including MBAM/MBAE & SAS, over the years. SB is totally free to use; the only extra thing the pay-for does is allow automatic update scheduling.
    "Take care of thy backups and thy restores shall take care of thee." Ben Franklin revisited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RolandJS View Post
    SpywareBlaster has never collided with any of my security and monitoring program, including MBAM/MBAE & SAS, over the years. SB is totally free to use; the only extra thing the pay-for does is allow automatic update scheduling.
    Thanks for your comment Roland.

    I actually tried SpywareBlaster myself some time back and found it to be a worthy product, though I've never put it through the rigorous testing that I did with SAS and MBP. Have you done any testing of it with regards to attempted Ransomware / Trojan infections to see if it blocks them, rather than just detecting an infection after it occurs?

    I've actually installed SpywareBlaster to a few cost conscious home client machines in the past. The only problem I personally have with it is what you pointed out - that it doesn't allow scheduling of automatic updates without purchasing. The same of course is true for Malwarebytes Free, along with the fact that real time protection isn't available unless the Premium version is purchased. I tend to shy away from recommending free protection utilities for that reason alone, as I find that the majority of people I deal with just want to use and forget when on the Net and thus their protection dwindles as time goes by because they don't bother manually keeping up with definition or program updates.

    Would be very interested to know if you've done any testing of SpywareBlaster's effectiveness on infected websites and email attachments along with the results of those tests? My test process involved disabling products one by one to see which, if any, prevented an infection from occurring.

    If you haven't, give it a try.. A small bonus of going through the effort to test the products I did was that I got to see some amazing porn during my testing as well lol..

    Best...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewski View Post
    I've tested these with the following AV products - Norton 360, Avast (all versions), Vipre (all versions), Others..
    The reference to "others" is rather esoteric...can you not name them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trev View Post
    The reference to "others" is rather esoteric...can you not name them?
    Sure.. I listed the ones I personally considered the best ones off the top of my head. Had to dig back through my notes, but there were two others. Avira and AVG

    Hope that helps?

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    Thanks for the reply.

    You state that..."I went to known infected web sites that distribute various forms of Malware, (including Ransomware scripts) that the Antivirus didn't prevent an infection"

    Could you post links to these sites such that I can test them myself with my preferred AV solutions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trev
    You state that..."I went to known infected web sites that distribute various forms of Malware, (including Ransomware scripts) that the Antivirus didn't prevent an infection"

    Could you post links to these sites such that I can test them myself with my preferred AV solutions?
    I understand your reasons but, so no-one runs foul of rule 8, I suggest any links to known infected sites is limited to PMs.

    Hope this helps...

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    Hi Trev,

    Quote Originally Posted by Trev View Post
    Thanks for the reply.

    You state that..."I went to known infected web sites that distribute various forms of Malware, (including Ransomware scripts) that the Antivirus didn't prevent an infection"

    Could you post links to these sites such that I can test them myself with my preferred AV solutions?
    Sorry, but that I won't do.

    Not only would I consider it to be an irresponsible act because of a chance that non experienced users reading this forum may decide go to those sites to just "have a look", but most of those sites have likely been shut down by now. All I can tell you is that they were phishing sites made to look and act like the genuine domains they were impersonating.

    If you have any knowledge of "Dark Web" forums, I can assure you that there's plenty of currently live infected sites (as well as infected file attachments) to be found around the world and downloaded.

    And no, before you ask, I won't reveal dark web forum locations either, nor how to find and access them - if I was to be somehow discovered spreading such information, I'd be targeted mercilessly and my business web site attacked and shut down in no time at all. There are plenty of very clever and nasty hackers in those forums that know how to find you if they set their minds to it and it took me quite some time (and a lot of lies) to be accepted and trusted as a user. Though I always use a VPN hiding my real location, a dedicated computer and separate USB mobile modem connection for access, I still won't risk my own safety by revealing what I know about the locations of these highly malicious places. I have "anonymously" reported certain things to Security and law enforcement organisations in the past however, mostly to do with child pornography, but whether any action has ever been taken as a result of those reports I don't know.

    Apologies I can't help you with that request.

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    Fair enough, no problem.

    But you should understand that as your claims about these products that you started this Thread to push lack any proof or verification, then I for one will remain skeptical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trev View Post
    Fair enough, no problem.

    But you should understand that as your claims about these products that you started this Thread to push lack any proof or verification, then I for one will remain skeptical.
    No worries Trev, skepticism is everyone's right and not a bad thing at all in my view.

    My purpose of making this post was to share what "I've" found to be a very effective strategy in protecting folks from the creeps and criminals that create and spread Malware in the first place so as to give a little back to this forum which has helped me a few times in the past..

    My purpose was never to "promote sales" of these products, (I'd have included affiliate / re-seller links if that were the case) nor am I offering any "Proof" of my findings to satisfy you or anyone else.

    As I said in my opening post, the products are absolutely free to try, so folks have nothing to lose apart from a little time to prove or disprove it for themselves.

    No skin off my nose either way.

    Cheers..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewski View Post
    ...Not only would I consider it to be an irresponsible act because of a chance that non experienced users reading this forum may decide go to those sites to just "have a look"...
    You are 100% correct - to post such filth would be extremely irresponsible and would certainly attract the attention of WSL moderators/administrators as it would be a serious breach of WSL rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trev View Post
    ...But you should understand that as your claims about these products that you started this Thread to push lack any proof or verification, then I for one will remain skeptical.
    Drewski has simply stated what is generally accepted as common sense by IT/IS professionals (I know this full well because I am one). I regularly attend customers who have been tricked into visiting "phishing" websites or opening infected email attachments. It would be wholly irresponsible and inexcusable to post examples of such filth here.
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    Concerning effectiveness of AVs, AMs, numerous other security and monitoring programs heavily, heavily, depend upon the end-user -- end-user's carefulness, cautiousness, common sense, and other characteristics and behaviors. One cannot test the programs and not test and improve oneself (the underlined stuff) continually. Bleepingcomputer's Quietman7, who maintains one of the most respected / most thorough army of template threads and posts -- over and over indicates the underlined in his own words of course.
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