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    Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    I have the trusted sites security set to Default except the two which were Prompt have been set to Enable.

    A trusted site entry is:
    http://www.*.wopr.com
    (I tried to set it to: http://www.*.wopr.com/* but IE trimmed it back to the above).

    As I move around the site I keep getting the Prompt "Scripts are ususlly safe etc." This makes me think wopr is not showing up as a trusted site.

    Internet zone is set to mostly Prompt.

    What haven't I set correctly?

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    Re: Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    I do not believe that entry is correct. I don't think IE understands this:

    http://www.*.wopr.com

    Instead, get rid of the "www". The entry should be:

    http://*.wopr.com

    But, you should STILL get Merc's buttons!! <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    Thanks guys,

    I have entered it as simply *.wopr.com and it seems to be working!

    Yes, I have d/l'd the buttons but have not installed yet. I'm not THAT speedy.

    Cheers, velocity

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    Re: Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    That is fine too. All that does is place any protocol from "*.wopr.com" in your Trusted sites.

    For example, ftp:www.wopr.com, https:secure.wopr.com, or http:www.wopr.com would all be considered "trusted". It would be the same as adding "**.wopr.com" to your Trusted sites.

    If for some reason you wanted to limited the site to just http, then you could enter http:*.wopr.com. I realize this is all nit-picky and overly complicated -- but JUST IN CASE you wanted to know!!

    Good luck.

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    Re: Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    rm,

    Thanks for the clarification. I should have got it right in the first place, being an old DOS warrior.

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    Re: Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    MerC,

    I am using IE 5.5 and Win98SE.

    I have had a go at installing buttons. The path in Zone Buttons.reg came up to where I had placed the icons so I didn't have to alter anything but saved it for good measure. It was a bit of a worry that there were no other *.ico in that folder (C:WINDOWSSYSTEM).

    When I tried to add the buttons they didn't appear where I expected, which was as the attachment. Am I looking in the right place? Yes, I rebooted.

    Cheers, velocity
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    Re: Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    Hi
    In the Redme.doc file I said I'd tried these buttons in Win 2000 and in XP. I've just done it in 98SE, with IE5.5, and it also works.

    I can only ask you to make sure :

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    Re: Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    Thanks for holding my hand, MerC,

    I must have left out a step, I have the buttons now on IE5.5 toolbar.

    Some interesting things to report:
    I pruned some unused buttons as you suggested to make room for the new ones because the space between buttons became more than it used to be. One thing I tried on the Customize Toolbar window, while trying to fit them in, was the Reset button. The button help seemed to say it would revert to a default set of buttons, it didn't. After pressing it the toolbar changed back to the old closer spacing of buttons and everything fitted in (before pruning). But on closing the window the new wider spacing was invoked.

    I have also been experimenting with different sites to see how they work as Trusted. The results have been various. wopr is no problem at all. Some show Trusted at bottom right of IE but still give the prompts that I have Internet set to. Others, after been tagged, come up as Trusted but immediately change to Unknown (mixed) on changing to another page of the same site and, as I remember (unreliable as it's all confusing) some of these give the prompts and others don't.

    Probably IE5.5 bugs so don't worry about it.

    Thanks again, v.

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    Re: Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    Hi
    Just a small point : using the Security Settings in IE, have you selected Custom Level (for all Zones) and set each parameter to what you want? It sounds as though you may still inadvertently be using Default levels.

    Rgds

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    Re: Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    Hi Speedy
    Not sure if it's the same in IE5.5, but instead of Default Level + changes, try Custom Level + changes. And if you want a quick way of moving sites around Zones, get the IE Button Pack from my website.

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    Re: Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    A couple of side notes:

    1) I *believe* the button spacing may depend on the length of the longest text. I don't use the Button Text -- I have the "Text Options" set at "No text labels" -- so I am not 100% sure, but I remember someone mentioning this before. If you desire to use the Text labels, let's try to shorten them to be a small as possible. Do this:

    a) Hold down the "Windows" key (btwn Ctrl and Alt) and hit the "R" key. A Run box opens. Type in "regedit" (no quotes) and hit Enter. This opens the "Registry Editor". Up top, hit Registry | Export Registry file. Name the file "RegBackup" and select Export Range "All". Save this to your Desktop. You now have a registry backup. You won't need it, but it may make you feel better!

    [img]/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif[/img] Click down through the [+]'s until you get here:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerExtensions{B06300D0-CCDE-11d2-92D3-0000F87A4A55}

    In that key you will find an entry (value) called "Button Text". Change it from "Add to Restricted sites" to simply "Restricted". Do the equivalent in this nearby key:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerExtensions{BF80219A-CCDD-11d2-92D3-0000F87A4A55}

    Except, change the Button Text to "Trusted". That should limit the size of the Text that is displayed on the Buttons and may improve your spacing.


    2) One button that I highly recommend NOT using is the "Related" button. If you have this on your Toolbar, dump it.

    3) The reason why some sites appear as "Unknown (mixed)" is because the content on some sites comes from various sources. Generally, this means that the site has advertisers "serving" you content on the site you are visiting. For example, if you visit MSNBC.com, some advertiser like Doubleclick may be serving a little window in the corner advertising some product or web page.

    I usually do not want to trust advertisers -- there are issues regarding cookies and tracking your browsing that make me, eh, distrustful. So generally, if the site you are visiting is in the Trusted zone -- AND you are getting prompts about running content, this is usually some OTHER site trying to serve you something you may or may not want. I would decline these -- unless you have some reason not to.

    I personally dislike "prompts", so I disable them in the Internet zone. If you set up the Internet zone to be fully restricted, you will get less prompts and be more safe. With safety comes a price -- less functionality. But, the choice is yours.

    I hope this has been more enlightening than confusing...

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    Re: Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    Hi Rick
    Sorry to mention this, but Exporting the Registry as you describe has a couple of drawbacks. It assumes you would be able to get to the desktop - and with a broken Registry this may not be possible.

    1. In Win 9x, there is no real need. First you have the ScanReg option from a DoS prompt. Then you have the easy method of backing up System.dat and User.dat. These can be used to replace a broken Registry from a DOS prompt (and removing attribs) .
    For an exported file to work, you have to be able to get into Windows and use the Merge option, which may not be possible and which I don't think works from DOS. I find this method useful for backing up parts of the Registry I'm working on, but not the whole thing.

    2. In Win 2k and above, there is no easy way to Restore a broken Registry, except from the Start Up discs you make on installation (or the ERD). Gone are the simple *.dat files, to be replaced with 'Hives' and I'm not sure these can simply be copied for later use - even if they could be found. If you Export as you describe, and try to Merge later (or simply click a *.reg file of the whole Registry) the merging stops before it completes, with an error message. You would be ok (as I have been on a couple of occasions) if the faulty entry occurs before the error : if not you're stuck.

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    Re: Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    MerC,

    For the time being I have set Internet to lote of prompts so I can get an idea of what is happening. The others were at Default. I have just changed(?) them by clicking on Custom, altering nothing and accepting that. I haven't yet checked against sites that were causing problems.

    Does it count as Custom if Custom has the same details as Default or are you suggesting that there are some alterations which should be made?

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    Re: Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    Hi
    Well, if your Default setting in Trusted Zone for e.g. javascript is Disable, you won't get any of it running even on Trusted sites.

    The idea of Zones is (roughly) this :

    1. Trusted Zone - invoke Custom level and Enable everything.

    2. Restricted Zone - invoke Custom level and Disable the lot.

    3. Internet Zone - invoke Custom level and set things to the level of safety you require. I used to use 'Prompt' quite a bit, but it gets awfully tedious. If you Enable active content (Active X, javascript and Java apps) you will get full functionality, but low safety. If you Disable active content, you will get maximum safety, but some pages will not let you in, or you'll only see part of what is there. Yer pays yer money...

    The point is that the MS Defaults chosen for you appear to give you the worst of both worlds.

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    Re: Trusted sites, wildcards (IE5.5)

    Merc - I agree, the exporting the registry procedure is only useful if you want to extract certain keys out of it -- for example, if you errorenously deleted a necessary key. It is NOT useful for Merging the entire registry back into place. Backing up the whole registry this way is just like backing up a lot of little parts!

    With a broken registry, you can usually get to your desktop in Windows -- and in the worst case scenario, you can always get there in DOS.

    To be complete, in Win9x you do NOT need to bother using ScanReg in DOS or copying system.dat or user.dat -- although I compulsively do all of that. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> Win9x does AUTOMATIC backups of the registry. Five backup copies are created in the hidden folder C:WINDOWSSYSBCKUP. They are named rb000.cab through rb004.cab. The "rb" is for Registry Backup.

    These can be accessed from DOS to restore your registry -- type scanreg /restore at a DOS prompt and you will find them quite easily accessible. So, the user can do NOTHING and he/she will still have a backed up registry. (Eh, five different copies by Windows 9x defaults.)

    HOWEVER, if you just want to pull ONE key out of the whole registry, then a backed up complete copy of the registry easily accessed from your desktop can be quite useful. Simply open it in Notepad (or any text editor), and copy the key you need. You can create a .reg file to replace the erroneous key, or edit the registry manually.

    Besides, like I said in my post - "You won't need it, but it may make you feel better!" It was only for velocity's psychological benefit! <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    Just opinions!! Cheers.

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