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    HandyShopper 2.1

    Am I the last to know?

    About a month ago I found <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=5314>HandyShopper 2.1</A> for Palm O/S and installed it. I'm really enjoying this little list management app, as I use my Palm 105 for a mix of business and personal stuff.

    My only negative is that the documentation really needs a "getting started" section, it took me a while to figure out a few simple basics. The app does much more than I need, but already I have grocery, wine, and backpacking gear lists loaded. And the "no-stylus" mode is really handy when cruising the supermarket aisles with one hand on the shopping cart.

    I'm embarrassed to say, but for me this almost a "killer app" for Palm!
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    Re: HandyShopper 2.1

    You're right, John, this is a great program. I had tried ShopList! before, and it just wasn't doing anything for me. Do you have any tips on how you've implemented it, advice for a new user? I've just installed it, and I am trying to get my head around the whole "needed" and "unneeded" concept.

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    Re: HandyShopper 2.1

    After my comment that it needs a "getting started" section, you've got me on the spot! Here's my version:

    Create a database from the drop down menu; in the US most folks would start with a Grocery database.

    Create a store; your most frequented store is best, be sure the store is selected.

    Check the All button.

    Don't enter anything yet. At this point go to the little "page" icon (bottom right between the NEED and the spyglass icon), select preferences, and simplify the display as much as possible by showing (some of these may be the default) ONLY:

    View Tab: All, Uncheck everything, set max lines to Auto, Font to smallest
    Columns Tab: Uncheck everything except Quantity (you can even skip that if you want)
    Sort Tab: Sort only by "A>Z", check only "Completed at Bottom"
    Database tab: Check only "Record Item Completion Date" (and skip that if you want, but it's handy if you forget something or it's out of stock.)

    (Remember, I'm a male who doesn't want to get too obsessed about prices, quantities, etc., etc.; I just want to remember my steak and shaving cream.)

    Now start entering items in the All view. Each one will be created with a dot in front of it. Create maybe six or ten to begin with. To list an item as Needed, tap the leading dot; the needed item will then show a dash-outlined box.

    After you have created a bunch of items including some you need, tap the Need view. Only what you need will show in this view, with a solid line box in front of them.

    As you put each item in your cart, tap* the item, and the box will be checked and the item will move to the bottom of the list.

    To reset all purchased items as not needed, check out ( via menu or /O). Any nonpurchased items will stay as needed. (By now HandyShopper starts to get obvious. I initially created all my items in Need view (and maybe in All Store mode?) and was really confused for a while. Create new items in a specific store in All view when you are getting started. If I recall correctly, there is no easy/automatic way to move an All-Store item to a specific Store, just Cut-&-Paste, which is annoying.)

    Go to town with new databases and preferences.

    *As soon as you get the hang of the databases, learn no-stylus mode, which I've just started using. That way you don't need the stylus, except to check out.

    As to how I've implemented it: I'm still in learning phase so I'm not using many features yet, but my Wine List has grape varieties as Stores, then Vintage by Vintage. My backpacking list is an All Stores List, since Store doesn't apply.
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    Re: HandyShopper 2.1

    That's very helpful. I was particularly stuck since I had "needed" selected under Preferences | View | Show:, so I couldn't figure out how to make something needed or not. Good stuff!

    By the way, I won't tell anyone of your awfully unmanly obsession with shopping <img src=/S/devil.gif border=0 alt=devil width=15 height=15>.

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    Re: HandyShopper 2.1

    Hey, thanks for the no-stylus tip! I keep about a dozen or so lists with this program, including an extensive rubber stamp database. Its great. It's also an excellent way to keep an 8 year old occupied in the grocery store. I let my son check the boxes and tell me what we need to buy! <img src=/S/cool.gif border=0 alt=cool width=15 height=15>

    Kris

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    Re: HandyShopper 2.1

    Have any of you compared it to Splash Shopper?
    I am using Splash Shopper at the moment, and I like the desktop integration, but it doesn't quite do what I want. Are there any comparisons available between the two....

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    Re: HandyShopper 2.1

    I selected HandyShopper because of the "postcardware" price, where SplashShopper, which looks pretty neat, is $19.95 US. At this time HandyShopper 2.n has NO desktop integration (it does for Ver 1.7, but I don't believe it was ever updated for Ver 2.n), so SplashShopper has an edge there.
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    Re: HandyShopper 2.1

    I have just reviewed the HS 2.5 documentation from HandyShopper from PalmGear (the last update was yesterday, June 25, 2002, as I post this) and discovered that HandyShopper now has two "desktop integration" tools:

    Desktop Shopper, for HandyShopper 1.7 and also for HS 2.n.

    HS2Edit, an Excel spreadsheet environment which will edit HS 2.n databases

    I have not yet tried either of these.
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