Results 1 to 11 of 11
  1. #1
    Bronze Lounger
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    New York, New York, Lebanon
    Posts
    1,449
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Writing formulas (Word 97 and >)

    Folks

    Please don't let me go crazy <img src=/S/crazy.gif border=0 alt=crazy width=15 height=15> and pull my hair out <img src=/S/hairout.gif border=0 alt=hairout width=31 height=23>, but how do I write fractions and the division symbol and mathematical equations and formulas and things like that.

    I am a math teacher, a brand new one <img src=/S/clever.gif border=0 alt=clever width=15 height=15>, and I am preparing some handouts for my students. I am using Word but Word is giving me a heck of a time writing fractions.

    I want the fraction to be a number Numerator above a line and then another number the Denominator, below that line, not the / thingy.

    Also I like to use the insert symbol to insert the division sign, but is there any easier way to find these special characters.

    Thanks for helping me out, but I am at a loss here <img src=/S/brickwall.gif border=0 alt=brickwall width=25 height=15>. All comments will be put to god use so I assure you send them all my way, they are all going to a good home.

    Wassim
    <img src=/S/compute.gif border=0 alt=compute width=40 height=20> in the <img src=/S/bagged.gif border=0 alt=bagged width=22 height=22>

  2. #2
    Silver Lounger
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    Springfield, Ohio, USA
    Posts
    2,136
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Re: Writing formulas (Word 97 and >)

    Try Insert | Object | Microsoft Equation, then you can either be really dangerous or really <img src=/S/hairout.gif border=0 alt=hairout width=31 height=23>
    <font face="Comic Sans MS">Sam Barrett, CACI </font face=comic>
    <small>And the things that you have heard... commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also. 2 Timothy 2:2</small>

  3. #3
    Bronze Lounger
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    New York, New York, Lebanon
    Posts
    1,449
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Re: Writing formulas (Word 97 and >)

    Thanks a Million Sammy

    But an extra question, can I have the toolbar on and docked all the time?

    Wassim <img src=/S/clapping.gif border=0 alt=clapping width=19 height=23>
    <img src=/S/compute.gif border=0 alt=compute width=40 height=20> in the <img src=/S/bagged.gif border=0 alt=bagged width=22 height=22>

  4. #4
    Super Moderator
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
    Posts
    3,852
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked 259 Times in 239 Posts

    Re: Writing formulas (Word 97 and >)

    Hmmm. Not that I know of... but there may be an adequate workaround.
    1. Insert a new equation object into your document. You could give it some standard content or not
    2. Click away from it - the toolbar will disappear.
    3. Single click it to select it and then choose Insert > Autotext and add it to your Normal template with the name "Equation"
    4. Now customise a toolbar to include a button which will insert that object into your document. Right click a toolbar area and choose Customize. Under the Commands Tab, select a Category called Autotext and drag the word Equation from the Commands box into a toolbar.
    5. Click Close in the Customize Dialog

    Now you can click that button to get a new blank equation on your page and then double click it (Note: its hard to see if you left it empty) to give yourself the toolbar you were after.

    When exiting Word, if you are asked to save Normal.dot, say Yes
    Andrew Lockton, Chrysalis Design, Melbourne Australia

  5. #5
    Silver Lounger
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    Springfield, Ohio, USA
    Posts
    2,136
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Re: Writing formulas (Word 97 and >)

    You could assign this macro to a toolbar button, but it won't dock the equation toolbar. Note that the activate at least leaves the equation toolbar up. might be a better option, but I've not tried it. It does give you a dockable <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.mathtype.com/features/win/features.stm#MS_Word>tool bar! --Sam<pre>Sub InsertEquation()
    Dim s As InlineShape
    Set s = Selection.InlineShapes.AddOLEObject(ClassType:="Eq uation.3", _
    FileName:="", LinkToFile:=False, DisplayAsIcon:=False)
    s.Activate
    End Sub</pre>

    <font face="Comic Sans MS">Sam Barrett, CACI </font face=comic>
    <small>And the things that you have heard... commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also. 2 Timothy 2:2</small>

  6. #6
    Super Moderator
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
    Posts
    3,852
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked 259 Times in 239 Posts

    Re: Writing formulas (Word 97 and >)

    Now thats a much better way! Good one Sam <img src=/S/clapping.gif border=0 alt=clapping width=19 height=23>
    Andrew Lockton, Chrysalis Design, Melbourne Australia

  7. #7
    Bronze Lounger
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    New York, New York, Lebanon
    Posts
    1,449
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Re: Writing formulas (Word 97 and >)

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29> Sammy

    So many thing to learn, so little time. But I will investigate the MathType thingy and see how it works.

    Thanks

    Wassim
    <img src=/S/compute.gif border=0 alt=compute width=40 height=20> in the <img src=/S/bagged.gif border=0 alt=bagged width=22 height=22>

  8. #8
    New Lounger
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    13
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Writing formulas (Word 97 and >)

    I'm a bit confused about exactly what Wassim was wanting with a "docked toolbar" in Equation Editor (EE).

    Wassim, if what you want is for the EE toolbar to become part of the Word toolbar, that's not possible. EE works as a separate application that inserts an equation object into a Word document with a process called Object Linking and Embedding (OLE).

    If what you want is for the EE toolbar to be "docked" to the equation editing window, that is possible by converting EE to "separate window" operation. (The default is "in-place" operation, which is what Andrew was thinking of when he said "Click away from it - the toolbar will disappear.")

    We have a document called "Equation Editor Tips & Tricks" on our Web site. Tips & Tricks shows how to change EE to separate window operation, and it also shows how to put an EE icon onto your Word toolbar, thus obviating the time-consuming steps of Insert | Object | Microsoft Equation. This is what Sam was talking about when he mentioned MathType's "dockable toolbar". This toolbar docks onto Word's toolbar, and is for opening MathType; it does not allow directly inserting symbols and equations. MT does have a toolbar that remains docked to the editing window, but like EE, does not have a toolbar for inserting symbols that docks to the Word toolbar.

    There is a free 30-day full-featured evaluation version of MathType available at the link in my sig. If you choose not to buy it, it will remain usable beyond the evaluation period in a reduced-features mode, and will be able to edit all equations created during the evaluation period.

  9. #9
    Bronze Lounger
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    New York, New York, Lebanon
    Posts
    1,449
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Re: Writing formulas (Word 97 and >)

    Hi Bob

    Yes you answered my question. What I wanted to do, is to have the Equation Editor available for me at all times, instead of having to go Insert|Object|MS Equaltion Editor and then get the toolbar and work with it.

    As you may have heard, I teach math as a side job, and I teach adults, so I have to work with the EE a lot in one document and that makes it time consuming to have to do the above menu selections.

    But the tip about getting a toolbar button might be what the doctor ordered. <img src=/S/bravo.gif border=0 alt=bravo width=16 height=30>

    I'll also check the 30-day trial, I can always use something new.

    Thanks for your reply, can you tell me the URL for the Equation Editor Tips & Tricks?

    Wassim still <img src=/S/compute.gif border=0 alt=compute width=40 height=20> in the <img src=/S/bagged.gif border=0 alt=bagged width=22 height=22>
    <img src=/S/compute.gif border=0 alt=compute width=40 height=20> in the <img src=/S/bagged.gif border=0 alt=bagged width=22 height=22>

  10. #10
    New Lounger
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    13
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Writing formulas (Word 97 and >)

    Wassim, you wrote:

    <font color=blue>I have to work with the EE a lot in one document and that makes it time consuming to have to do the above menu selections.</font color=blue>

    The toolbar button will, as you say, speed things up a bit. There's also a shortcut key combination you can use: Ctrl+Alt+Q. When in Word, this key combination should open Equation Editor. If you have MathType installed, it will open MathType instead.

    One other thing that makes MathType speedier than Equation Editor... When you finish an equation and close the EE window, EE dumps itself from memory and must be loaded into memory again for the next equation. This takes 2-3 seconds each time -- perhaps longer on a slower machine. MT is memory-resident, so the first time you use it, it will take the same 2-3 seconds that EE did, but after that, it's immediate.

    <font color=blue>can you tell me the URL for the Equation Editor Tips & Tricks?</font color=blue>

    Sure, but it's just as easy to click on the link in my signature. The Tips and Tricks article is linked from our home page.

  11. #11
    Uranium Lounger
    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Los Angeles Area, California, USA
    Posts
    7,453
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Writing formulas (Word 97 and >)

    Hi Wassim:

    In reading your posts, I thought of another idea. First, you want to convert a fraction that's written as

    234/5678

    to have the slash become horizontal. I'm wondering if a macro could be written that would convert a selected fraction into what you want. I don't know the answer to that (& I don't know VBA), but if possible, this would be easier than doing everything inside the Equation Editor. Perhaps someone here or on the VBA board could tell you whether this is possible.

    So far as inserting symbols more easily, try this:
    1. Go to insert/symbol & select the symbol that you use commonly, such as the divisor. You'll notice that there is a button on the dialog box called "shortcut key...".
    2. Press shortcut key & then assign something like Alt+NumPad2, Alt+NumPad2, etc. You'll probably find less than 9 symbols that are commonly used, & this should save you time.

    Hope this helps.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •