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    Corrupting Styles (2000 SR-1)

    Hi,

    We have frequent problems with Word freezing on opening documents which we believe contain corruption caused by text using some ancient Wordperfect styles. What I'd like to do is open the file in a text editor, attempt to find the text with the rogue styles and remove them. Is this possible, or lunacy and could anyone recommend me a suitable (freeware!) editor if the former?

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    Re: Corrupting Styles (2000 SR-1)

    I don't know about text editors, but have you thought about inserting these files into Word instead of just opening them? We've had good success with that with problem documents.

    Lee Morgan

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    Re: Corrupting Styles (2000 SR-1)

    Wordpad may do the right thing by you also. It will already be on your machine and was most likely provided by Microsoft for cases such as this.
    Andrew Lockton, Chrysalis Design, Melbourne Australia

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    Re: Corrupting Styles (2000 SR-1)

    Dudes, this is what "Recover Text from any File" is intended for! When Word corrupts WordPerfect documents on conversion I have found that File, Open, As Type, "Recover Text from any File" works great. 'Course you'll have to re-format and re-style the text...

    Make sure no one is "copying and pasting" from these old documents -- always always use copy and Edit, Paste Special Unformatted text or you will continue to have this problem.
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    Re: Corrupting Styles (2000 SR-1)

    Just to reiterate: Get rid of these converted documents ASAP.

    In case you are interested, what follows is my standard Word Perfect to Word rant. Feel free to ignore, at your own peril...

    Word and Word Perfect work very differently from one another. Each program's methods have strengths and weaknesses, but if you try to use one of these programs as if it were the other, it is like pushing on a string! You can easily make a lot of extra work for yourself. <img src=/S/exclamation.gif border=0 alt=exclamation width=15 height=15> If you are unwilling to take the time to learn to use Word's methods, you should stick to using Word Pad. You'll have a lot less grief, although you'll miss out on a lot of raw power.

    See <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.addbalance.com/word/wordperfect.htm>Word for Word Perfect Users</A> (addbalance.com/word/wordperfect.htm)
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/WordVsWordPerfect.htm>Word Perfect compared to Word</A> (mvps.org/word/FAQs/)
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/TipsAndGotchas.htm>Tips and Gotchas</A> (mvps.org/word/FAQs/)
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/RevealCodes.htm>Does Word Have Reveal Codes?</A> (mvps.org/word/FAQs/)
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/WordPerfectConverters.htm>Word Perfect to Word Converters and Why None of Them Are Perfect</A>
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://businesssoft.about.com/compute/businesssoft/library/blconvert.htm>Converting Documents from Word Perfect to Word</A>
    for information on Word for Word Perfect users.

    For more:
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/CreateATemplatePart1.htm>How to Create a Template (Part 1)</A> (mvps.org/word/FAQs/)
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/CreateATemplatePart2.htm>How to Create a Template (Part 2)</A> - download the Word version which includes a template built the way the tutorial describes. It is a work of art. (mvps.org/word/FAQs/)
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Numbering/WordsNumberingExplained.htm> Word's Numbering Explained by John McGhie</A> (mvps.org/word/FAQs/)
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm>Understanding Styles</A> (addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm)


    In Word 2000 or later you can get the function keys to display in a special toolbar at the bottom of the screen if you want (something like pressing F3 twice in WP). The following macro will do this.

    Sub ShowMeFunctionKeys()
    Commandbars("Function Key Display").Visible = True
    End Sub


    Learn about <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm> Styles</A> - really learn! I resisted for years and now regret every day of those years because although that string was still very hard to push, it kept getting longer and longer, and had some very important projects tied to it! Once you understand styles and the Word concept of organizing things into Chinese boxes everything falls into place and instead of pushing a string, you can push a button that turns on the very powerful text processing machine known as Microsoft Word and it will start doing your work for you instead of running around behind you trying to undo what you just thought you did.

    So much for my rant. <img src=/S/hushmouth.gif border=0 alt=hushmouth width=16 height=16>

    It's a lot of reading, I know. It's OK to chunk it down and do a bit each day, but I would recommend that you make it a top priority to do that bit each day. Then pass out dribs and drabs to others you work with and become a guru so that everyone comes to you for help fixing the problems they keep causing because they don't know what they are doing wrong...
    Charles Kyle Kenyon
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    Re: Corrupting Styles (2000 SR-1)

    Thanks to all for the suggestions. We converted to Word years ago. What has happened is that although all our documents are now in Word format, some users had pasted text from WP docs into them, apparently causing the corruption and freezes. The methods suggested for getting text out unfortunately, while otherwise useful, don't retain the sometimes complex formatting of the documents.

    Once again, thanks for the many replies.

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    Re: Corrupting Styles (2000 SR-1)

    Again, get rid of the WP converted documents (and the documents that imported text from them without stripping the formatting). They are a poison in your system. Yes, it is painful to reformat, but the alternative is document corruption in important documents when you can least afford it.
    Charles Kyle Kenyon
    Madison, Wisconsin

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