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    Direct Cable Connection Fails (Win XP Home)

    We've got troubles right here in River City! We are trying to migrate files from a Win98 PC to a WinXP Home PC using a Direct Cable Connection, and we get most of the way there, but are unable to connect to a share on the Win98 PC. We get a message that the user (who is an administrator) does not have priviledges to do that sort of thing. Has anybody else seen this behavior? If so were you able to solve the problem. (we are making Win98 the host, and WinXP the guest.
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    Re: Direct Cable Connection Fails (Win XP Home)

    Wendell, what network protocols are you using with the cable connection? And what is the specific error message?
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    Re: Direct Cable Connection Fails (Win XP Home)

    The network protocol is TCP/IP for both PCs. Both have Client for Microsoft Networks installed, and both have File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks installed. I created a share at the root level of the C: drive on the Win98 PC called C-DRIVE. The Workgroup name is MSHOME on both PCs. When I start the Direct Cable connection with Win98 as the host and XP Home as the Guest, it says a connection has been established at 4MB, and the byte counts continue to go up as long as the connection is active. BUT, I cannot connect to the share of the C: drive on Win98 - the typical message "XXXXXXXX cannot be connected to or does not exist" is all I get. And I cannot browse the Workgroup MSHOME at all. I get a message that says the it cannot be explored at this time, or the current user doesn't have permission to explore it (the user is an administrator). We are simply trying to transfer some large files from the person's old PC to a nice shiny new Dell.

    I did try going the other way (Win XP Home as host and Win98 as guest) and I get a message on the Win98 PC that the cable is not connected to the LPT1 port. <img src=/S/confused.gif border=0 alt=confused width=15 height=20> isn't it!
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    Re: Direct Cable Connection Fails (Win XP Home)

    Install NetBEUI on both machines.

    On WinXP, NetBEUI is hiding:
    HOW TO: Install NetBEUI on Windows XP

    Then connect from XP (guest) to 98 (host).

    I hope it will solve your problem.

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    Re: Direct Cable Connection Fails (Win XP Home)

    Addition to previous post:
    I just check MSKB article and notice that is not applies to WinXP Home anymore. That is the proper procedure:

    Q. How can I install the NetBEUI protocol in Windows XP?

    A. Windows XP does not support NetBEUI (mskb 306059, The NetBEUI Protocol Is Not Available in Windows XP, at http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/ar...s/Q306/0/59.ASP); however, mskb 301041, How to Install NetBEUI on Windows XP, at http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/ar...s/Q301/0/41.ASP tells how to install it. Mskb 301041 must be there for a reason. Here's how:

    Start, Control Panel, Network Connections, Right-Click an existing connection, Properties, General tab, Install, Protocol, Add, Have Disk, insert the Windows XP CD-ROM, open the Valueaddmsftnetnetbeui folder, double-click the Netnbf.inf file, OK, OK, and restart Windows when prompted.

    If you have a new computer that didn't come with a Windows XP CD-ROM, see if the computer manufacturer will send you the CD-ROM or the necessary NetBEUI files. If that isn't possible, you'll have to use a different protocol on your network.

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    Re: Direct Cable Connection Fails (Win XP Home)

    Thanks for the response. NetBEUI isn't installed on either PC, so that may be a possibility. It seems strange that would solve the network browse/map drive problems. However networking in the Windows enviroment has always seemed to be part technology and part unexplained magic. We will give it a try.
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    Re: Direct Cable Connection Fails (Win XP Home)

    <hr>part technology and part unexplained magic<hr>
    And don't forget two parts black voodoo magic, Wendell! <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Direct Cable Connection Fails (Win XP Home)

    When I got cable modem, I bought a D-Link Internet gateway (which is nothing more than a router). I tried for hours to establish a network with my XP Home machine and 2 Win 98 machines. The way I finally got it to work was to install NETBUI on all machines and create a setup diskette in the XP network wizard. I then used the setup disk to configure networking on the Win98 machines. When I rebooted all machines, there it was--a perfectly operating network. I also have file and printer sharing enabled on all of the drives.

    I have not experimented with any other methods or protocols, but I believe this is the best way to network these types of OS's. NETBUI is not routable, so its traffic doesn't appear on the Internet side of the router. Network speed is plenty fast for me. I haven't seen any drawback to using this method. I hope this helps.

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    Re: Direct Cable Connection Fails (Win XP Home)

    Wendell,

    I had similar problems when I originally created my 3-computer network using a router. One XP Pro and 2 Win 98 SE machines. The 98 machines could see all the computers but the XP machine could only see one of the Win 98 machines. After much frustration of installing, uninstalling and reinstalling protocols I finally uninstalled my ZoneAlarm Pro firewall from all 3 machines, established the connections with no problems at all and then reinstalled the firewall. Why did it work? I have no idea but it did and it is still working great with the router's firewall and ZoneAlarm Pro installed as is recommended by the LinkSys router manual.
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    Re: Direct Cable Connection Fails (Win XP Home)

    I too, had the same problem, but all I did was check to see if ALL of the IP address's were listed with in ZoneAlarm and they were NOT.

    <img src=/S/devil.gif border=0 alt=devil width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/devil.gif border=0 alt=devil width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/devil.gif border=0 alt=devil width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/devil.gif border=0 alt=devil width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/devil.gif border=0 alt=devil width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/devil.gif border=0 alt=devil width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/devil.gif border=0 alt=devil width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/devil.gif border=0 alt=devil width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/devil.gif border=0 alt=devil width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/devil.gif border=0 alt=devil width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Direct Cable Connection Fails (Win XP Home)

    Dave,

    I didn
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    Re: Direct Cable Connection Fails (Win XP Home)

    And so to the bottom line - floppy transfer works more reliably than any other technique <img src=/S/exclamation.gif border=0 alt=exclamation width=15 height=15>

    WinXP claimed it couldn't find anything to install when I tried to install NetBeui. So I said to myself, self, you've got an ME machine - surely it could be made to work. So I installed Direct Cable Connection on it, hooked it up to the cable, and it said there was nobody at the other end, even though the XP machine was able to set up a connection at about 400kBit. So we finally resorted to copy files using floppies, and aside from the fact that it will take my friend about 3 months to transfer 7 years of accumulated files, it's working. She may not think so in 3 months however.

    It looks like the only really viable solution is to install workgroup networking (at a minimum), and transfer files that way, but she had some problems that sort of precluded that approach. Is this progress <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0>
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    Re: Direct Cable Connection Fails (Win XP Home)

    There may be one other solution to try, and I'm not sure if it would work with an XP and a Win98 machine or not, but I know it will work with two Win98 machines, so it may be worth a try with your two computers. If both the computers have NIC's installed in them, and both have an ip address, you may be able to just create the share and then connect a cross-over cable between the two NIC's and get to the share using the run command. I do that often times when I want to copy large amounts of data from machine to machine and don't want to run it through a hub or anything like that. Of course, I usually do it at work, so what I do is: Log both computers on to the network where they're assigned a dynamic ip address, make sure the directory I want to share is shared on the computer, pull the ethernet cables from NIC's and connect a cross-over cable between the two NIC's, then go to Start-->Run-->ComputerNameShareName on the computer that I want to copy the files to. That way I don't have to add a direct cable connection in the Network properties or anything like that. Plus you get really good trasnfer speeds that way. The only keys to the equation that I've found are making sure the computers get an ip address, and having a share to connect to on one of the computers. Who knows...it may work, but I haven't tried it with an XP and Win98 mixture.

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    Re: Direct Cable Connection Fails (Win XP Home)

    misterhy here. I am a newbie and not as knowledgeable as you all,but,did you try the files and settings wizard under system tools? When I got my new pc,the Compaq manual recommended using this wizard to do exactly what you are trying for.
    lots of luck and work safely

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