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    Wrong machine name

    I recently replaced my disk. The guy who installed it put "DAVE BELONGS" as the machine name, which is a nice sentiment but looks stupid.

    I went into the Network control panel and changed it on the Identification tab. But still, things in the print queue say they're from DAVE BELONGS. I searched the registry and that string's not there. What am I missing (other than dignity)?

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    Re: Wrong machine name

    That is something that MUST be controlled in the registry. I don't know of any other database on your computer that would hold this type of information.

    Look in these keys:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemCurrentControlSetControlCo mputerNameComputerName
    ComputerName=

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemCurrentControlSetServicesV xDVNETSUP
    ComputerName=

    HKEY_USERS.DEFAULTSoftwareMicrosoftWindows MediaWMSDKGeneral
    ComputerName=

    HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftWindows MediaWMSDKGeneral
    ComputerName=

    I would think you would be in business if you modified all of those to show the desired name.
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    The only other places I find "MyComputer" named is in these three files:

    user.rsc
    hwinfo.dat
    bbdhdhao

    All of these reside in C:Windows -- but I think the SOURCE of their data is the registry. So, try the registry changes first...

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    Re: Wrong machine name

    Thanks for the quick reply. It's not in the registry, not in any of the keys you mentioned, and I don't have 2 of the 3 files you named. But I did find it in the hidden binary file hwinfo.dat, under "RegisteredOwner". Now how do I edit THAT, safely? Sheesh.

    Thanks!

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    Re: Wrong machine name

    Have you tried looking in the registry under:
    Hkey_local_machinesoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrent Version ?
    If you find it there you can change it with REGEDIT.
    Good luck.
    Jack

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    Re: Wrong machine name

    Yup, folks, I did search my registry for "ComputerName", and none of those keys contain DAVE BELONGS. In fact, as I said in the beginning, I searched the whole freakin' registry for DAVE BELONGS, and it's not there. (Hey, I even searched for "BELONGS" and that's not there either.)

    Who knows, maybe I'll break out good old DEBUG and play with hwinfo.dat and see what pops up in the print queues after that.

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    Re: Wrong machine name

    Did you search your registry for "ComputerName"? I have to believe that all Win98 machines do this the same way...

    Perhaps you should enter the ComputerName value in the keys I posted above with the name you desire. Back up the registry first and then reboot after you make the changes. I must believe Windows reads one of those registry values to determine the name of my computer.

    "Registered Owner" should also appear in the registry under this key:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentV ersion
    RegisteredOwner=

    BUT, this value is usually for programs (in this case for "Windows") and not for the computer's name. [I think this is the place jasuhill is refering to as well.] The correct value for the name of your computer is "ComputerName".

    The only other possible value I can come up with is "UserName" -- you might want to scan your registry for this... but it will appear in a lot of places. Many programs use that value...

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    Re: Wrong machine name

    The HWINFO.DAT file is created during Windows setup. An excerpt from the Microsoft article How the Windows Update Tool Determines if an Update Is Valid (Q189306):
    <hr>The Windows Update wizard updates the Hwinfo.dat file on the local computer.

    NOTE: The Hwinfo.dat file is a record of the current state of the computer's hardware configuration, as well as a history of previous device drivers and system resources. The Hwinfo.dat file is created during Windows 98 Setup. The file is updated when the Microsoft System Information tool or the Windows Report Tool is run, and when the Windows Update wizard scans the computer. You can use the Microsoft System Information tool to open and view a Hwinfo.dat file. <hr>
    That said, I wouldn't edit it. And I don't think your problem is somewhere in the registry either, unless you haven't changed the Registered Owner key.

    You have not said what kind of network this is on, for starters. I've seen routers that stubbornly insist that a machine is still present on the network even though it has been removed. Sometimes domain controllers in a large network will retain a PC name. Change the network name and description, keeping in mind that printer shares on other computers will not dynamically reflect the name change. Nor for that matter will locally created printer shares, although shared folders and files will not be accessible until you type the new name.

    Be careful in your registry please - especially around network settings!!
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    Re: Wrong machine name

    You can modify a binary file with a binary file editor. I recommend WinVi. Backup any file before you modify it -- and it works best to only make byte-for-byte substitutions (don't add or remove bytes).

    However, I do not think changing the Registered Owner will effect the computer name. Besides, I would bet that the file got the Registered Owner value from the registry to begin with. I realize you said you scanned your registry for "Dave Belongs", but I have to assume something was missed -- sorry, but the reality is that most people don't always do things right the first time...

    I accept that Dave Belongs is not in the registry -- although it is a bitter pill to swallow!! If it is not kept in the largest modifiable database on your computer, where did they put it??

    OK, let's find out. For this you need a good search program. Forget about anything from Microsoft. I recommend Agent Ransack. Use this to search your entire hard disk for "Dave" or "Belongs" and see where it appears. Good luck.
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    I did not assume you were talking about a Networked computer. Is that what you are refering to?? Does the Computer Name you are talking about only have to do with using it on a Network? Then perhaps the name is on the server?? I don't know much about networks... :-(

    As always, back up your registry before any modification... even if Win98 does it automatically for you.

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    Re: Wrong machine name

    Very Strange! I checked several of my Win98 computers -- networked or not. All of them had the ComputerName value somewhere in the registry. This one has it here:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemCurrentControlSetControlCo mputerNameComputerName
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemCurrentControlSetServicesV xDVNETSUP

    If I modify the Computer Name in the Network Properties dialog, these keys change -- and my computer is renamed!

    So, I am completely at a loss on how your computer has a name. Mine is clearly stored in the registry... :-(

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    Re: Wrong machine name

    My computer name is stored just as yours is too.
    I could have changed the name with regedit but I like its name "Bruce" so I'll leave it that way.
    Jack

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    Re: Wrong machine name

    I know this sounds a bit simplistic, but..... have you asked "the guy who installed it" what he did and where he hid that setting ??? Just a thought.
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    Re: Wrong machine name

    What is the "Account name" that was used when the system was set up?

    You might look for the "Dave Belongs.pwl" file. If so delete it and make a new accout name by retarting the machine, when the Windows login screen opens type in the account Name you wish to use and password if you want to use one. If not, leave the 'Password' area empty and just press the 'Enter key'.

    Even though one does not use a password, ALL Windows 98 machines open to a account name.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Wrong machine name

    Try Control Panel - the Network icon. Then the Identification tab. Sometimes things are easier than registry editing!

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    Re: Wrong machine name

    Another thing to look at is: What Registry Editor are you using to search for "DAVE BELONGS?" If it's Norton's Registry Editor, you should know that the search function doesn't work properly. I have Norton Utilities 2002, but I've read where it's been broken in all versions dating back to 1999.

    If that's what you're using, re-try your search using "regedit.exe".

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