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    Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    Was wondering if anyone has had problems downloading Java Virtual Machine while using Windows XP Pro. Does it crash XP? Please let me know. Thanks!

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    Re: Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    No problems, been using it since Beta 2 and on. Now have it installed on 4 machines, 1 Home, 3 Pro.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    So Dave...you don't think that Java is causing my system to freeze up?

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    Re: Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    If it is related to installing the JVM, then it's because something else is wrong - and installing the JVM involed symptoms.

    Like Dave, I've installed the JVM numerous times and had no ill effects.
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    Re: Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    Well, since my system froze up twice before, I decided to install it again (Windows XP pro) and then start adding programs, one at a time. How long do I need to wait between installs to determine which program (if any) was freezing my machine?

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    Re: Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    Do you restart the machine after each install even if the program does not ask?

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    That's a tough judgement call. I look at whether the program makes substantial changes - something like Office, for example, would prompt me to wait a week. Norton Systemworks/Antivirus and the like are the same. If it's a simple little add-in, sometimes I will throw caution to the wind and not wait at all. Some of this is also based on past experience, too - but in general, any driver updates or major application installations would likely benefit from a few days worth of trouble free operation before installing anything else.

    The other option is to use System Restore or to perform a backup if you can, and see how the machine behaves after the install. Java wouldn't have made me decide to wait for long, but it is an upgrade (so to speak) to Internet Explorer, which is tightly bound to Windows these days.
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    Re: Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    Actually, if the installation program does not ask me to shut down, I don't shut down. Should I be shutting down after each and every installation of a new program? Also, how about installing new drivers? Should I shut down after each new driver install (although I think I have no choice but to shut down)?

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    Re: Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    IE being "tightly bound" to Windows XP? That's an understatement...LOL.

    Anyways, my instincts were right than. I'm using outlook express for a few days before I install Office XP. Also, I'm only going to install the Outlook XP and Word 2000, the programs that I actually use!

    Regarding SystemWorks, I haven't had a problem since installing it. I needed to install it right after I installed Win XP so that I could surf the internet. I wanted to have a antivirus program, so I just installed the minimum set of programs. Although Norton Utilities was installed, I haven't activated it. I'm scared of that program, because I think it might be the culpret of many of my earlier problems.

    Regarding System Restore, when my system was really having a bad time of it, I couldn't even get System Restore to restore to an earlier configuration. It gave me an error message saying it couldn't restore to an earlier restore point.

    I just want to make sure that I install nothing that is going to conflict with Windows XP, and have a smooth running system, that's not too much to ask, is it?

    Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.

    Thanks...d

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    Re: Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    I think it's just an old habit that dies hard - stemming from the days when you had to reboot the machine if you so much as sneezed in its direction (and, in the case of NT, re-apply the service pack and reboot AGAIN).

    Ideally, if you're not prompted for a reboot, you shouldn't need to. But that old habit drives me to do it anyway, just in case some file that was in use needs to be replaced at startup.

    With drivers, regardless of what the installer does, a reboot is always a good idea. USB peripherals usually allow you to avoid that, but video, sound, and NIC drivers nearly always force a reboot, because they are in use when you update them.
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    Re: Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    Well said Mark, This is why I reboot on almost every install.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> That just made me think of when I installed Office 2000 on Windows 2000, and it didn't ask to reboot. I sat there dumbfounded for a few minutes, and then said "Yeah, RIIIIIIIIIGHT" and rebooted the machine anyway!!
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    Re: Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    I think I understand. Reboot after every installation!!!

    Does anyone have any suggestions/advice on which Windows Updates I should install?

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    Re: Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    All critical updates and any others that apply to your system. If you do not use Windows Messenger, then the updates would not apply. Do the same thinking on any non critical update.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Java Machine (Windows XP Pro)

    Well, I guess the distinction i was trying to make, Dave, was which critical updates do I need to install? I know that there have been a few since October, 2001, and then there have been some cumulative patches. Do I need to install every single critical update or be selective, and if I should be selective, then which ones should I install? Thanks in advance for your advice!

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