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    Critical Updates & JVM (WinXP Home)

    Hi,

    I have some questions about applying a recent critical update for the Java Virtual Machine (JVM)
    Some background...

    1) I belive that a JVM is not included in Win XP (Home). Microsoft dropped their JVM in WinXP.
    Correct?

    2) Because of that, I installed Sun's JVM 1.3.1

    3) I checked Microsoft's security bulletin for the Critical update, and upgraded the Sun JVM to fix the security hole.

    My questions are:
    - Is my assumption in 1) above correct?
    - If so, will the application of the critical update install the M/S JVM. I would prefer not to do that (previous experience <img src=/S/flee.gif border=0 alt=flee width=25 height=25> )?
    - Is there any way to stop this critical update appearing in the list during WinUpdate process?

    TIA
    Kym

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    Re: Critical Updates & JVM (WinXP Home)

    Microsoft dropped the shipping of their JVM in Windows XP. Quite the little soap opera, but you are correct.

    When you state that you checked for the "Critical Update" are you referring to one specific update? Or the JVM update that is described here?

    If you haven't installed the Microsoft JVM, you should not see it listed in Windows Update. However, *should* is a dirty four letter word in my world, and doesn't mean the same as *will.* If the update is appearing and you don't want to see it, you can remove it from the listing by Personalizing Windows Update - there is a link on the WinUp page to do so, and you can de-select any downloads that you don't want to see. The update should (there's that word again) not install the Microsoft JVM, but caution is a good idea - you really should apply any critical updates that are available.
    -Mark

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    Re: Critical Updates & JVM (WinXP Home)

    Mark,

    The JVM update I refer to is "Security Update, March 4, 2002". This looks like the one you refer to. Both cover MS security bulletin MS02-013.

    So, how does one determine if MS's JVM is installed. I had a quick look in Add/remove programs and the associated Windows components and did not see it. Perhaps a revelant exe or dll or winnt directory?

    Thanks,

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    Re: Critical Updates & JVM (WinXP Home)

    Cumulative VM Update, March 4 2002, contents following files:
    OAInst.exe; osp.zip; wfcclean.exe; filler.inf; osp.cer; xmldso.cab; javatrig.exe - dated 2/18/2002
    java.inf - dated 2/19/2002
    msjava.cat; Advpack.dll; W95inf16.dll; W95inf32.dll; javabase.cab; javaie30.cab; javax86.cab - dated 2/25/2002

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    Re: Critical Updates & JVM (WinXP Home)

    I am just a user.

    Your opinion that "you really should apply any critical updates that are available."

    So, are you saying that installing the Security Update, March 4, 2002 is OK to do. This is not a catch question... I am looking for a "knowledgeable" answer.

    Thanks in advance,
    Georgette

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    Re: Critical Updates & JVM (WinXP Home)

    "Your opinion that "you really should apply any critical updates that are available."

    <font color=red><big> Yes</big></font color=red> one should install ALL "Critical updates".

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Critical Updates & JVM (WinXP Home)

    I am embarrassed... henceforth I will install all critical updates.... <img src=/S/scold.gif border=0 alt=scold width=50 height=15>

    Thanks,
    Georgette

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    Re: Critical Updates & JVM (WinXP Home)

    Hi Georgette
    Don't feel embarrassed because you didn't know something. Feel that way when, like me, you know very well what you're doing is not right, but you go ahead anyway. The whatif syndrome. One of my pupils recently : 'what if I stick this screwdriver in the mains socket?' Now he knows what badly burned fingers feel like...

    Critical, or even Mission Critical, means your computer won't run properly without them. As you have have discovered.

    Kym : If you didn't know this already, to find out which JVM version you have :

    Start/Run and type WJView in the command line. It should tell you you have 5.00.3805.
    If not, update.

    BTW, if you receive a 'virus warning' about jdbgmgr.exe don't follow the instructions to remove it. It is an integral part of your Java implementation. Not absolutely vital, but it's better to have it.

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    Re: Critical Updates & JVM (WinXP Home)

    Thanks!
    gg

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