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    No history (6.0.2600.0000)

    <font color=4682b4>My issue is sorta dealt with in the MS KB, article no. Q296336, except I've got a different OS from what they cite and their workaround (such as it is) doesn't work. Here's the sitch:</font color=4682b4>

    They say:
    <font color=red>The information in this article applies to:
    Microsoft Internet Explorer versions 5.01 , 5.01 Service Pack 1 , 5.01 Service Pack 2 , 5.5 , 5.5 Service Pack 1 , for Windows 2000
    Microsoft Internet Explorer version 6 for Windows 2000 </font color=red>

    I say:
    <font color=4682b4>But I have Win 98.</font color=4682b4>

    They say:
    <font color=red>The menu bar in Internet Explorer, which contains the View and Search buttons, no longer appears in the History Explorer bar (or pane), and the History pane contains an item called History.IE5 instead of your Internet Explorer browsing history. </font color=red>

    I say:
    <font color=4682b4>And below that is a file called desktop.ini</font color=4682b4>

    They say (here comes their "workaround"):
    <font color=red>To work around this behavior, quit, and then restart Internet Explorer. If this does not resolve the problem, you may need to reinstall Internet Explorer.</font color=red>

    I say:
    <font color=4682b4>It don't work!
    I've reinstalled explorer several times, even downloading it anew. I'd uninstall before reinstalling, but it won't let me. I've tried deleting the history folder too. That don't work. What will work?

    Anyone have any thoughts?

    Thanks in advance,

    Melissa

    PS: Apologies if this has been dealt with, but I searched for "history" in the archives and only came up with a post from today. </font color=4682b4>

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    Re: No history (6.0.2600.0000)

    Melissa,

    So the issue here is that you have no history, is this about right?

    the only thing that might cause this is if your history is set to 0 days. You can check this by doing the following:

    Click on Tools
    Click on Internet Options
    Click on the General Tab
    Check the history. Increasing the number of days to keep history will ensure that history is recorded.

    It's important to note that even re-installing a browser may not blow out all settings. In Windows 98, iexplore is throughly engrained throughout the OS, making it difficult.

    Now, if you absolutely must retrieve history, and the steps above yeild no results, you can do the following, (This is high-tech slueth stuff... <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>)

    Using the Start button's Find option, do a search on your local machine for index.dat. You will return two or three copies of this file.

    The one within the Temporary Internet Files folder will provide the most information, perusing this file in notepad will yeild mostly gibberish, but if you look carefully, you can find a list of all sites visited. (No, it doesn't say when, but you'll have the URL's.) Index.dat is a log used to keep track of cookies. It's difficult to clean up, and few people know about it.. (until now, that is...)

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    Re: No history (6.0.2600.0000)

    Thanks, DrkRealm, for responding to my little trouble. I was beginning to think no one cared! <img src=/S/sad.gif border=0 alt=sad width=15 height=15>
    It's not an emergency that I find my history, it would just be useful if the software WORKED THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO WORK!!!

    Oops, sorry. I didn't mean to have a tantrum. <img src=/S/scream.gif border=0 alt=scream width=15 height=15>

    But hmm. <img src=/S/confused.gif border=0 alt=confused width=15 height=20> Perhaps this needs restating. The main issue is that IE6 doesn't care to show me my history! <img src=/S/frown.gif border=0 alt=frown width=15 height=15>
    I have 20 days worth of history storing up somewhere, according to my settings, and things like my back & forward buttons work, as does my url autocomplete, but when I click the pretty sundial, all I get is what you see here, if my file attachment has attached properly. And if it hasn't, it's just a little pane, with a little folder that says History, and below that it says desktop.ini. If I click on the History folder, I see a file called index.dat. But in no way does clicking on anything show me a history.

    The stuff quoted from the MS knowledge base (see original post) seems to apply to my situation, except that all my software is different. And that their fix doesn't.

    Still confused,

    Melissa

    PS Forgive my newbie statement that my search for the word "history" in your august archives yielded nothing. After I was all signed on and everything, it yielded a ton of stuff, just as one would expect, but still none of it seems to apply to this particular little bug. <img src=/S/butterfly.gif border=0 alt=butterfly width=15 height=15>

    Any other bright ideas? How about on how to acutally ask Microsoft? They sure don't make it easy to figure out on their pages!
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    Re: No history (6.0.2600.0000)

    Well, in all honesty, I'm a bit perplexed. You say you've reinstalled the browser? If you revert back to I.E 5.5 or earlier, does the problem still exist?

    I am currently using the exact same browser as you, and our windows look strangely different. In mine, I have a View and Search function within the header of the history pane. I've racked my brain, and can't seem to figure out what might be going on here. Try reverting to an old version and see if the problem still exists.. as far as getting ahold of Microsoft, you've got two options, check out thier communities, (a forum, sort-of like Woody's Lounge, there's a link at the bottom of our Main Index) or, you can give them a call and let them charge you unheardof amounts of money to fix their problem. <img src=/S/hmmn.gif border=0 alt=hmmn width=15 height=15>

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    Re: No history (6.0.2600.0000)

    This is a great question!! The History folder has lost it's magic. So, what gives the History folder 'magic'?? A couple of things.

    First off, open the History Folder via Windows Explorer and make sure it does not work correctly via this path as well. Open Windows Explorer and drill down to C:WindowsHistory. I suspect you will NOT see what you are supposed to see -- various folders named "Today", "Yesterday", "Saturday", etc. Instead you will see exactly as you posted above. Then again confirms the 'magic' is gone. We need to get it back.

    Give me some time... ah, I don't have enough tonight...

    In the meantime, see if you can open the desktop.ini file. It should contain the following:

    [.ShellClassInfo]
    UICLSID={7BD29E00-76C1-11CF-9DD0-00A0C9034933}
    CLSID={FF393560-C2A7-11CF-BFF4-444553540000}

    There should be an exact copy of this desktop.ini file in the C:WindowsHistoryHistory.IE5 sub-folder. Open that -- if you can.

    Then, do you know how to Edit the Registry?? Can you find the two CLSID entries in your registry, Export each of them to your desktop, open them with Notepad, paste the contents here?? Thanks.

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    Re: No history (6.0.2600.0000)

    Melissa - I can make my History folder lose most of it's functionality by modifying the desktop.ini file in the main History folder. Surprisingly, if I mess with the desktop.ini file in History.IE5, the History folder still seems to work normally! (?)

    One difference is that in my view I still see the sub-folders that make up the History folder. If you click on the History folder, can you make these sub-folders appear? The sub-folders of the History folder are actually titled by their dates "MSHist01 2002 6 11 2002 6 12". When the History folder has the 'magic', this folder would be named "Today".

    There is a list of these 'actual' names in this section of your Registry:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentV ersionInternet Settings5.0CacheExtensible Cache
    I *believe* the actual sites that you visited are stored in an 'encrypted' form under the "Protected Storage System" in your Registry.

    The Application Extension for Windows that apparently controls the 'magic' in the History folder is "shdocvw.dll". If this file was somehow corrupted, I suspect the History folder might not work correctly. Do you know how to find the MD5 HASH of a given file?

    Please ask for anything you don't understand.
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    Re: No history (6.0.2600.0000)

    Hi Melissa:
    One thing you could do to check for a corrupted file is go to Start/Run & type

    sfc

    & then <enter> This should bring up the system file checker. If it doesn't, because I may have modified my system & not recall <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>, you can go to Start/Help & type in system file checker & it will give you a live link to click.

    Run this utility & see if you have any corrupt files. If so, you can replace them from your Win 98 CD or if you have a later version stored on your compuer. You can find the latest version of any DLL file at
    http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/...ion/dllinfo.asp

    Cheers,

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    Re: No history (6.0.2600.0000)

    The file in question would have to be shdocvw.dll. The corruptness of the file can be easily verified with a check of the MD5 HASH.

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    Re: No history (6.0.2600.0000)

    Wow, these are great answers!

    1. No, I don't get today, yesterday, etc., folders in Explorer (BTW my History file is found at C:WindowsTempHistory).

    2. Take your time! I'm paying by the hour, you know.

    3. Opening desktop.ini from Explorer gives me just what you list. Opening it from the IE History pane gives me

    [.ShellClassInfo]
    ConfirmFileOp=0
    CLSID={FF393560-C2A7-11CF-BFF4-444553540000}

    4. I went into RegEdit and typed CLSID uder Edit>Find and it didn't find anything.
    I didn't know where to look otherwise - I started with HKEY_CURRENT_USER > Software > Microsoft > Internet Explorer but nothing jumped out at me.

    How'm I doing so far?

    Thanks much,

    Melissa

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    Re: No history (6.0.2600.0000)

    I don't get the dated subfolders - although those names look familiar. I've seen them before, but whether it was before the troubles started up or after (but before some of the things I've tried, like outright deleting the History file, to try and fix it) I don't know.

    When I go in RegEdit, I have no 5.0 under Internet Settings. There is a Cache directly under Internet Settings, but all that's under it is a folder called "Preload". Also under Internet Settings is Url History, but it seems just to store my 20 days of keeping setting.

    No, I don't know how to find the MD5 HASH of anything. Wazzat?

    --Melissa

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    Re: No history (6.0.2600.0000)

    Hey, this isn't really identifying what specific messages I'm replying to, is it?
    More <big><font color=red><font face="Snap ITC">Fun With Newbies!!</font face=snap></font color=red></big>

    So this is in response to Phil:

    I ran sfc - that was fun & easy! - and it didn't turn up a corruption or anything.

    I guess that's good.

    But hey - thanks for the tip! Process of elimination . . . <img src=/S/doze.gif border=0 alt=doze width=15 height=15>

    --Melissa

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    Re: No history (6.0.2600.0000)

    OK, verify a few things for me: OS and IE version. I think you have Win98 -- but is it SE?

    The History folder should NOT be at C:WindowsTemp!! That is something that we need to fix. Nothing 'permanent' should be in your Temp folder. For all we know, this is the reason why the History folder does not work...

    Let's move your History folder first. This may not be as easy as it sounds. There are several places in the registry that SHOULD point to the correct place of the History folder. I suspect you will find that some of these are in disagreement.

    Regardless, the History folder SHOULD be at C:WindowsHistory. Move it there by Cutting and Pasting in Explorer. Also, please note if the folder icon for the folder is "special" -- that is, containing the sundial image.

    Once you have moved it, we now need to make sure the registry knows how to find the folder. You will likely need to modify the registry manually -- since I am not sure of your exact set up. There are a few key places that MUST point to the correct History folder. They are:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentV ersionInternet SettingsCacheHistory
    CachePath="C:WINDOWSHistory"

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentV ersionInternet SettingsUrl History
    Directory="C:WINDOWSHistory"

    Multiple places in:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentV ersionInternet Settings5.0CacheExtensible CacheMSHist0120020xxx20020xxx
    CachePath="C:WINDOWSHistoryHistory.IE5MSHist012002 0xxx20020xxx"
    (where xxx are dates like 611 and 612)

    HKEY_USERS.DEFAULTSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentV ersionExplorerShell Folders
    History="C:WINDOWSHistory"

    HKEY_USERS.DEFAULTSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentV ersionProfileReconciliationHistory
    DefaultDir="*windirHistory"

    If you make sure these all point to the correct History folder, then Windows should be easily able to locate it. They MAY be all you need to do...

    I realize this may look daunting, but take it one step at a time.

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