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    FTP Slooooow

    I think this is an IE issue:
    I have IE5.5 on WK2 SP1. ADSL line at 512K.
    Downloading ordinary files is fine - the download window shows ~65-70KB/Sec.
    Until recently, downloading by FTP was similar, but now has reduced to around 3KB/Sec on a good day.
    I am not aware of changing any settings but, like most people, am prone to inadvertant and accidental 'mucking about'. I have downloaded the latest IE SP to see if that helped.
    Clue: Occassionally, when clicking on an FTP link from an e-mail, an Explorer window will pop up in the background: 'Locate Link Browser', but the usual download window comes up as per normal.
    Can someone please help put me out of my misery?

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    Re: FTP Slooooow

    Hi Lief:
    First thing that showed up on search
    <hr>I've seen precisely the same symptoms on our Digital boxes, and it was
    definitely a duplex problem between the switch and the network
    cards---we've given up on autodetect and now force it to "full duplex" on
    both the switch and the NICs. I hope that helps!
    <hr>

    Have you tried specific FTP tools (eg. WS_FTP Pro) to test speed without IE etc in the way?

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    Re: FTP Slooooow

    Only other thing I could see that should be FTP specific is Proxy Settings. You might want to disable proxy for FTP (or all) and see if this changes the picture.

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    Re: FTP Slooooow

    Thanks Ian.

    Just tried WS_FTP:
    Time to download program (2.5MB in 43 seconds)
    Connected to the ftp site, started download, gave up when estimate of 5.25MB file hit 46 minutes and climbing.

    IE connection is set at LAN settings/Automatically detect...

    No proxy in use, ADSL box (dynamic connection) plumbed straight into network.

    What is so odd is that it appears to only affect FTP transfer and only recently (10 days ago) started happening.
    I've tried the MS ftp site and get the same result, so I don't think it is a problem with the source.

    I'll keep on fiddling...[img]/w3timages/icons/thinks.gif[/img]

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    Re: FTP Slooooow

    Did some more testing.

    With IE5.5 and NS4.76 as link browser
    With and without DAP (Download Accelerator Plus) enabled
    With and without shift-click for Link Browser
    Direct ftp and link from message.
    Using three different FTP sites.

    Basically worked through all the variations. Although I did find NS4.76 consistently slower than the other options.

    I could only make the "Link Browser" window pop up when I shift-clicked the link in a (test) email.

    One thought, garbage left over in either Windows or IE. Might try thorough house cleaning and see if problem goes away.

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    Re: FTP Slooooow

    Hi Leif:

    Not sure if this will help, but I looked thru Internet Options (I have IE5.5 though, so there may be differences). Anyhow, on the Advanced tab, there's a place for ticking "use passive FTP for compatibility with some firewalls & DSL modems". Sounds like it should be ticked.[img]/w3timages/icons/lightbulb.gif[/img]

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    Re: FTP Slooooow

    Thanks Phil,
    I do have 5.5 and I had tried that - still no go.
    Persevering with WS_FTP I have managed to DOUBLE the download speed and I've got what I need for now. One last thing to try is on another PC I used to use - it should still have my profile on it and definitely used to work OK. If that's slow, I know the problem is elsewhere.

    Thanks for all the suggestions. I think it's got to the point where the effort going in exceeds the reward [img]/w3timages/icons/thinks.gif[/img] ...

    I'll post again if I unearth what's going on.

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    Re: FTP Slooooow

    One other workaround is to use the freebie Download Accelerator Plus. It works outside of the "normal" FTP engines and can open multiple concurrent, resumable, threads. Works great on dial-up or broadband.

    I will post it in Software Finds.

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    Re: FTP Slooooow

    Download DAP this morning (1.09MB in 20 Secs) and gave it a blast:

    Test download file - 8.27MB
    Normal download using IE5.5 - 42mins.
    Using DAP - 12mins.

    What was interesting was that DAP made 4 simultaneous connections and appeared to divide the download into 4 x 2.07MB chunks. With a nominal 64KB/sec expected download speed, I would normally see a file this size downloaded in approx 2.5 mins. Of the 4 connections, 2 appeared to be full speed (i.e. approx 16KB/Sec, one was moderate, the 4th dire. At 10 mins, I had 3 x 2.07MB chunks downloaded, the final 2 minutes being taken up by the final 300K of the slowest connection.

    Certainly a vast improvement so many thanks for the rec.
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    Looks like it made a bad situation better.[img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]

    FYI: You can use the "Switch connections" button on DAP to goose a slow stream.

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    Re: FTP Slooooow

    Just a thought.
    Might be worth moving this discussion over to SF on the DAP thread. There are a few tips and tricks that would be useful on the open board.

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    Re: FTP Slooooow

    Good idea. How about adding (editing) another section to your Rec - after comments? - of Tips & Tricks. Might keep it neater and all in one place for reference.

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    Re: FTP Slooooow

    Lief:
    What was the URL you used for the FTP/DAP test.
    Would like to cross test it from here (@home cable modem)

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    Re: FTP Slooooow

    Sent by PM - it's beta software and I'd rather not publicise it.
    Thanks.

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    Got it. Tested It.

    Using IE5.5. 81KB/sec.
    Using DAP. 94KB/sec.

    Each completed in under 2 minutes.

    FYI. Showing ping of 81ms to FTP site from here.

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