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    Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    [That's Internet Explorer versions 3 to 6, not the number of characters lost!]

    I have a feeling that this may have been covered before, but a Search doesn't pull it up immediately.

    On all versions of IE I've used, it often happens that some web pages lose the right-hand few characters from the end of each line when the page is printed. This happens regardless of the right-margin settings and is not related to the "unprintable margin area" for laser printers. It isn't helped by A4 being a couple of tenths of an inch narrower than US Letter paper! Sometimes the same web page will print differently, on one occasion with the full line being visible, but on another occasion losing some right-hand characters.

    Has anyone found a completely fool-proof mechanism to ensure that the whole amount of each print line is printed? Or do we assume that it is down to the dastardly web-page designer, who won't allow the text to flow correctly and assumed the entire universe uses Letter-sized paper? Or is another Microsoft <font color=blue>feature</font color=blue>?

    [TechNet enthusiasts please note that this missing print applies to ordinary text, as well as to tables (where missing text might be expected, but not condoned), and I would prefer not to have to print the web pages in Landscape! I don't have problems with printing either the page header line or the page footer line.]
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    Re: Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    This is a known problem and appears to be fixed in IE 6.0, also I think it was fixed with IE 5.5

    There is NOTHING you can do but upgrade.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    You say it was fixed for IE6?
    Isn't on daughter's IE6 (HP printer&pc), nor on mine IE6 (emachines pc&HP printer). We both have WinME. Have checked the margins for the paper - the way it is supposed to be
    set, but there are many instances that the right margin gets cutoff - especially when printing the MKBase stuff <img src=/S/frown.gif border=0 alt=frown width=15 height=15>, also some website stuff does it too.

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    Re: Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    Ok, lonnie,
    On my Windows XP Pro and Home systems running IE 6.0 it is working.

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    Re: Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    If the web page includes something which is of a fixed width, you sometimes may have no option but to print in landscape mode.
    Are you saying that print preview shows the entire page correctly, but when it is actually printed the right margin is cut off?

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    Re: Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    That's correct Leif. Using Print Preview is great...when the end result comes out the way it is shown !
    Daughter had some stuff for Business College to print out - 28 pages - she saw that the print preview was ok, started up the printer,etc., then had to do something in the kitchen. She came back to printer, and every single sheet had the right margin cut off. She had checked to make sure that the margins were set to 'default' - as recommended by HP - so there went 28 pages of bleh!She ended up going to the college, using their computer and printer, and the sheets were perfect! No one there could explain why it happened screwy on her HP and was ok on theirs.

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    Re: Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    View > Text Size (or whatever the equivalent is in IE6)
    What is the setting there?

    How do the actual printout's margins compare with the print-preview margins?

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    Re: Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    View>Text Size = medium

    Have no idea on the 2nd part - don't know how to check. - I personally don't use print preview - I just hilight what I want to print and menu pops up & I click print, and it prints what I have hilighted.

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    Re: Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    The View-Text does not help -- that is only for screen viewing, not for printing. I have resorted to using Landscape mode for as long as I can remember. IE6 did not "fix" this.

    But I would love a solution!! ;-]

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    Re: Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> and so would thousands (millions??) of other IE 6 users around the world.
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    Re: Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    Give me a web address that you are having this problem with. I have yet to find a page with this problem since we went to Win XP Pro with IE 6.0. We are running a HP 2100 Lazerjet and a HP1220C DeskJet, both seem to work just fine.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    Dave...this was daughter's problem. Right off the top of my head (such as it is <img src=/S/granny.gif border=0 alt=granny width=20 height=20> ), I can't think of one.
    Sorry...it will probably jump out at me when least expected! <img src=/S/frown.gif border=0 alt=frown width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/scratch.gif border=0 alt=scratch width=25 height=29>. If one does cross my path, I will post the website,etc.

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    Re: Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    I blame the page's author. If you demaximize the browser window and drag the right side to the left, you will know right away if the author allowed for narrower displays or print areas. If not, there's little you can do. Well, actually, I think I have opened pages in Word in order to get around this, but that creates its own challenges, particularly with heavily nested tables, and can be slow slogging if the formatting is complex. Some versions of Acrobat will import from a URL and then "print to fit." This can look different from a printout from the web, so if fidelity is critical, it's usually not the best choice. Sounds like some new software is needed...

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    Re: Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    I just printed it and having previewed it, I got the problems I expected (IE5.5) :

    Something is defined on that page which is wider than - er.. I don't know what. But, as you say, if you start bringing the right edge of the window towards the left, the text is being cut off before the bottom scroll bar appears, and when it does appear, you can not scroll far enough to the right.

    The attached pic shows exactly this - the scroll bar is fully right, but part of the page extends beyond that. FWIW, the page can be viewed without this error in NS, but you still get problems printing it.

    I'm afraid I'm of the opinion that it has something to do with the page design - something has defined a minimum width which is greater than the page width. I'm not sure, but I think the part where there are bullets has a table to the right of the bullet sized at 100% - i.e. it will always be the page width plus the offset of the bullet and therefore always bigger than you can print to!

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    Re: Printing web pages sometimes loses RH characters (3 => 6)

    I'm actually using IE6, chaps, but this happened on all previous versions of IE (probably back to 2).

    One of the web pages I'm having problems printing is Charles Kenyon's article on Word Templates - sorry that it's ten paper pages long. I've set the browser print margins to 15 mm all the way round, and Print Preview shows that from the beginning of the "actual FAQ", near the bottom of Page 2, around 0.3" to 0.4" (my guess) of text is not appearing (or subsequently printing). The printer definition is for an HP LaserJet 4 Plus, which is probably irrelevant.

    If I move the browser's right margin towards the left, it starts losing characters. Let's take the URL in the Introduction near the bottom of page 2 as an example. It reads
    http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...platePart2.htm.
    and you can't get it to split onto the next line. Having moved the right margin to the left, so that there is just a little white space to the right of the full stop (=period), then doing Print Preview, I lose the
    2.htm.
    at the right-hand side, and a very little of the right portion of the preceding "t". (Making the browser page narrower has moved this URL onto page 3, note!)

    [Sits back, waiting to be told that nobody else has problems with this page, and that (as usual!) it's <font color=blue>all my fault</font color=blue>!
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