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    JustCallMeAl
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    Metadata and path to the document (Word97 SR2)

    After doing several searches in the forum, I could not a solution to the problem I am trying to address.

    Several months ago, our company changed servers AND changed the server name. This has meant that we have documents in existence which still reference the old server when those documents are open.

    We have been trying to find where the problem is. Just today, I opened a document that was reported (via packet sniffer) to be trying to access the old server. After searching through all the normal locations, I decided to open it via Recover Text from Any File.

    When I did, sure enough, there were references to the old server. It looks like they are residual "saved" pathways--when it was saved, the "saved" pathways.

    Having read some about metadata, I see that some metadata can be cleaned out. However, the cleaners I reviewed were not able to clean out that information.

    Can this be accomplished via VBA? or VB for that case. If so, what commands should I be considering?

    Thanks for considering this.

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    Re: Metadata and path to the document (Word97 SR2)

    It is not accessible via VB/VBA prior to XP, maybe in XP. The Payne Consulting product will replace the file name history with asterisks; not sure how it does that.

    Old file names shouldn't be a problem, though. Could it be old template names?

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    Re: Metadata and path to the document (Word97 SR2)

    Old file names is not the problem. Old server references, which is in the file name because it puts the entire pathway in UNC format, is.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Metadata and path to the document (Word97 SR2)

    What I meant is, Word has no reason to look at old file names (for which it stores the complete path), but does have a reason to look for a server-based template. Does the problem go away if you attach the document to a locally stored template? If so, I think the old file names are a red herring. If not, it's a mystery.

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    Re: Metadata and path to the document (Word97 SR2)

    If the orginal documents were based on templates located on the old server/server name, then that templatepath is stored in the documents.

    When you open the document it will attempt to attach the template as stored in the file. This will result in an attempt to read the older server.

    I wrote a global add-in that checks to see if the template a document THINKS it should be using is actually in existence and if not, tries a best guess based on the current template path. This might be a solution for you if the above description fits. The code is located in the following thread:

    FixTemplatePath.dot

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    Re: Metadata and path to the document (Word97 SR2)

    "It is not accessible via VB/VBA prior to XP, maybe in XP. The Payne Consulting product will replace the file name history with asterisks; not sure how it does that."

    Looking at the above sentences, they say the opposite thing. <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29>

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    Re: Metadata and path to the document (Word97 SR2)

    "If so, I think the old file names are a red herring. "

    Many of our files are causing "hits" to the old server, which is nonexistent. These "hits" are causing a degradation in network performance. It is NOT a template phenomenon; those have all been changed.

    In looking through the file, by using Recover Text from Any File, there are several references to the old server in the form of UNC pathways.

    It may be a red herring, but until we get rid of that possibility, we can't be sure.

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    Re: Metadata and path to the document (Word97 SR2)

    I'm not sure how to interpret your comment. Payne says the opposite thing, or my sentences contradict?

    What I know for sure is that in Word 97 and 2000, the historical file paths are not accessible through the Word object model. If you want to get rid of them, you can use my cloning procedure. I posted it sometime in the past in another Metadata thread.

    Check out Payne's site for what they can and can't do. I downloaded the old freeware product a while back, but they have a newer version that does the asterisk thing.

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    Re: Metadata and path to the document (Word97 SR2)

    I did a search using various combinations of the following words:

    jscher2000, clone, cloning, metadata

    And couldn't come up with anything--most combinations said there were no hits.

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    Re: Metadata and path to the document (Word97 SR2)

    I'm sorry, you can't search username with the other fields. Due to shortage of board programming resources, it will be a while before that changes. Here's a link (might be others), and I will list the keywords here for future reference

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    Re: Metadata and path to the document (Word97 SR2)

    I didn't use your username in all the searches. I just noticed the problem. I limited the search to this forum, and your post is in the Word forum.

    Thanks for the link.

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