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    Virus Checkers

    I'd like to keep this thread alive, if I may, albeit maybe a little bit less active. I have two reasons:

    1) Wanted to thank Bruce and MerC for the tips about Mailwasher, which I've downloaded but haven't tried yet.

    2) Keep the thread here so some of us (you) can keep an eye on Grisoft and see what incremental programming they come up with. My small taste of the program, contrary to what it may have looked like, were favorable and I hope to be able to come back to it eventually.

    I'd also like to see more of the dirt bags of the world hung up by the thumbs for inflicting such trouble on the world of computing! Too bad more of them can't be caught and persecuted, er, prosecuted!

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    Re: Virus Checkers

    Hey Al!

    Let me know how it works out. I have had it for some time but never bothered to install it. I have been asked to install it on work unit to filter/bounce spam and am curious to hear first hand the set-up and useability goes.

    Edited by Eileen to remove scatological Smilie

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    Re: Virus Checkers

    Here's one that got past my copy of AVG, but I wasn't gullible enough to fall for it:
    <hr>AMISH VIRUS:

    You have just received the Amish Virus. Since we do not have electricity nor computers, you are on the honor system. Please delete all of your files.

    I thanketh thee,

    Abe<hr>
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    Seriously though, Mailwasher has been good for me, though I had to tell it to trust a few of the newsletters I receive to keep them from getting flagged as spam -- which is why I don't have it autobounce & delete what it thinks should be blacklisted.

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    Re: Virus Checkers

    I like to check what it's marked too before going ahead. I feel more comfortable that way.
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    Re: Virus Checkers

    <hr>I wasn't gullible enough to fall for it<hr>
    <img src=/S/yikes.gif border=0 alt=yikes width=15 height=15>You mean it wasn't for real. <img src=/S/stupidme.gif border=0 alt=stupidme width=30 height=30> I wish you had told us sooner. I felt honor bound to delete all my files. Good think for backups, huh? <img src=/S/scratch.gif border=0 alt=scratch width=25 height=29> <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Virus Checkers - AVG

    Why don't you start a thread exclusively for AVG. I have a feeling these threads will just get lost.

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    Re: Virus Checkers - AVG

    Not if I have anything to do with it! I have this thread on my "hot list" so I can come back when we see what Grisoft is gonna do about a standalone email checker.....

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    Re: Virus Checkers - AVG

    <P ID="edit" class=small>Edited by WyllyWylly on 13-Jul-02 23:35.</P>I have been in touch, via email, with Lynn Pittman at Grisoft and Larry Bridwell at ICSA Labs regarding AVG.
    As of July 12/02 both are aware ot this ongoing discussion. Perhaps one or both will sign on and participate.
    The emails we exchanged were rather lengthy so I 'm not going to post them here but the email addresses for both follow if anybody would like to contact them.
    Both answered my emails promptly and without a lot of heifer dust.

    Lynn Pittman - lwilson@grisoft.com
    Larry Bridwell - lbridwell@icsalabs.com

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    Re: Virus Checkers - AVG

    Just to save you the trouble, Ken, I sent Lynn Pittman another email yesterday since it's been a couple of weeks, just to see if they've got anything going? I'll post it here if I hear from her.

    By the way, when we were in the heat of our discussions about Avg, McAfee and Norton, I remembered that BUBS made mention of another one I'd never heard of - NOD32. Nobody picked up on it and said anything. Yesterday, when I was looking for something concerning RADMIN, there was a link to NOD32 on their web site. Seems they (NOD32) rate pretty highly on at least a CNET review, after a little preliminary "stink" about whether the reviewer was qualified to make the initial negative comments he apparently made. This quote is from NOD32's pages, not from Bubs:
    <hr>After hard evidence proving beyond all doubt that the ridiculous findings and figures published in CNet's April 2002 antivirus review were shonky and the exact opposite of the findings and figures of professional antivirus testing organizations was presented by Eset to CNet's CEO Mr Shelby Bonnie, CNet has updated its review of the NOD32 Antivirus System.

    In a very modest modification to the review in which amateur antivirus product tester Ken Feinstein severely trashed NOD32 and gave it a detection rating of "poor", CNet has bitten the bullet and admitted it was wrong ... but a couple of lines of weasel words do not repair the damage caused to NOD32's reputation by CNet's "review" ... nor do they compensate us for the sales we undoubtedly missed thanks to CNet's "review" !!!

    By way of correction, CNet has added the following text to Ken Feinstein's review : "But NOD32's track record with the 200 or so circulating wild viruses tops the charts. In our tests, we also check how well an antivirus program handles the current viruses in the WildList as an indicator of a program's performance. And Virus Bulletin's 100% Award, handed out only to programs that spot every virus making the rounds, shows that NOD32 performs as well as Norton AntiVirus."<hr>

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    Re: Virus Checkers - AVG

    Hey Al ~

    I received a personal e-mail from Ms. Pittman not long after the heat of the discussions thanking me for the nice things I had to say about AVG, to acknowledge my apparent brand loyalty, and that the discussions contained herein were taken with seriousness. I forgot to mention this. Funny, huh?

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    Re: Virus Checkers

    Re MailWasher: It's the greatest! I just love marking those e-mails "blacklisted" and watching them disappear. Yahoo! (no pun intended). It's nice not to get all that garbage and smut arriving in my Outlook inbox. Support is topnotch (I had a few questions re functions when I first started using it back in April of this year and the response was within a day!)

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    Re: Virus Checkers

    I agree. I was pleasantly surprised today when it even spotted a virus-carrying email and flagged it <font color=red>virus</font color=red>.
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    Re: Virus Checkers

    Well, I am very glad but actually jealous that eveyone is experiencing smooth sailing with MailWasher. I have, though, been fruitful on my blitzkrieg campaign to squash the unsolicited filth I was getting. In the short amount of time since I was pitching a hissy-fit, my well targeted campaign has brought the spam from 100-200 a day to - hold on to your hat - zero. I don't beleive it either, but I am just counting my lucky stars!
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    Re: Virus Checkers NOD 32

    Thanks for that link. The 'stink' arose because CNet had done a review in which they used various pseudovirii. NOD 32 can tell a pseudovirus from the real thing, so did not pick then up. As far as I know, the only pseudovirus it will react to is the EICAR test. The Virus Bulletin and ICSA certification tell the true story as to what is good and not so good, and both indicate that NOD32 is as strong as any product anyhwere. ESET cried foul - very loudly - as you will see if you visit http://www.eset.com.

    It is good to see that CNet have retracted - quite right too!

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    Re: Virus Checkers - AVG

    July 29, 2002 email from Ms. Pittman:
    <hr>In about 1 month, we will have EMC , which is an independent email scanner that will work with Netscape and other POP3 email clients.
    It will be posted on our main page at www.grisoft.com when it is ready. It has been in beta and they are working out all the last bugs in the program before we officially release it.
    Thank you for your interest in the AVG Anti Virus Product Line.
    Sincerely,
    Lynn Pittman
    Director US Operations
    Grisoft Inc.<hr>

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