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    Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    Have been noticing lately that at various times and/or in various programs, that my system freezes up for about 5 to 10 seconds; there is a
    H/D activity light comes on, and then all comes clear and normal. When this happens, I can't do anything, the mouse pointer is immobile and
    everything stops. I've tried to reduce all non essential programs, disabled virus check, etc., but have not been able to find out where this is
    coming from. This has only been happening recently, but I have disabled all known new additions to my system. Still no luck.
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    Re: Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    Is the Indexing Service enabled? That, or Office's "Find Fast" come to mind as likely suspects.
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    Re: Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    Check Mark's two things first, but, if you come up empty.....

    Sounds exactly like what McAfee used to do to me, even if I thought I was disabling it to check out the problem. If your virus checker happens to be of the McAfee flavor, try running MSCONFIG, go to STARTUP tab and see if something called "ALOGSERV" is running. It'll be in lower case of course. If you find it, kill it. It's what was causing my problem and McAfee tech support says it isn't a required program. (I think it's what "logs" virus attacks)

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    Re: Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    I thought you hit the nail on the head with Indexing service. I disabled it and for al while everything seemed to behave itself, but then this morning, there it was again. (might not have happened as often, or was that my wishful thinking?) Also. I dont have Office on here any more, or regarding the other post, I don't use any McAfee stuff. Really thought you had it there! Any other thoughts?
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    Re: Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    (I don't have XP, but based on W2K)
    Start up Task Manager, select Processes, and select to sort on CPU (so that the service using the most is at the top).
    Minimize it.
    Carry on working.
    When the big freeze comes, can you Cntrl_Alt_Del and bring up TM to see what is going on?

    Otherwise, does this apply?
    Computer That Has ASUS P2B Motherboard Stops Responding After Windows XP Installation (Q307145)

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    Re: Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    Sorry for the misleading grammar, Viking. I wasn't trying to lead you towards McAfee. It's just that that's what it was in my case. I was using that as an example, to suggest that you run MSCONFIG and look in startup for something YOU may have installed. Like, you know, you could have installed some graphics program, or whatever, that's in MSCONFIG Startup.

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    Re: Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    Well, I'm still trying. Tried Leif's suggestions with task manager...Ctrl Alt del didn't turn up anything that I could see that was out of the ordinary.( not sure just what I was looking for either) Also , don't have an ASUS M/B and this didn't really happen right after installing XP.
    I have gone into msconfig and disabled everything that I could except Norton A/V and or Outpost firewall. Still get these seemingly random
    freeze ups!!!!!!!!!!
    The only POSSIBLE clue I saw was in the event manager, there were errors with VSS (volume shadow copy) After disabling VSS, I still got
    the occasional deep freeze.
    Checked out Microsoft Knowledge base but didn't see any clues there either!!
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    Re: Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    Some random freezes in XP are due to the Welcome Screen. If you disable this feature and go back to the alternate Win2K style logon dialog box many report positive results. Also, during a freeze with the Welcome Screen enabled Ctrl-Alt-Delete does not function. Hopefully this and many other problems will be fixed when SP1 arrives later in the year.

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    Re: Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    <hr>...and this didn't really happen right after installing XP.<hr>
    I know this is probably way out in left field, but your comment above, plus the hard drive churn makes me wonder. You don't suppose that some evil phone-home thingie has gotten itself into your system, do you? Have you tried AdAware?

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    Re: Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    Hi Big Al...Yes I have already tried the latest version of AdAware, NO hits ! I am really getting ticked with this problem/annoyance! I have even tried
    reinstalling XP last night and am waiting to see if any change takes place. Meanwhile, keep those cards and letters coming (as they say) I do appreciate
    the input from all.
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    Re: Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    Still at it ! Re-installed XP as a last gasp resort and STILL getting the freeze ups. I enabled some unique sounds in the windows programs events and have noticed that when the freeze occurs, I get a sound on "device disconnect" and when it clears, I get a sound on "device connect". So apparently I am losing some device which freezes the system, then getting it back when it comes clear? But what is doing it? That seems to be the mystery.
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    Re: Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    In one of your earlier posts you said this hadn't happened right after you installed XP, leading me to believe the machine was "OK" for some period of time, then the problem started. NOW, you've re-installed XP and the problem is still there! This disconnect-reconnect thing could be a clue. You've not specified before, so would you mind giving us a pretty complete rundown on exactly what HARDWARE is in (or on) the machine? With all the Lounge'ers watching this thread, most more experienced than I, maybe you can give us something to "chew on." Hang in there, Viking!

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    Re: Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    I hope my Lounge comrades will jump in here too, Viking. Let's see, I'm focusing on the disconnect-reconnect messages you're getting, so.....

    How is the Umax scanner attached? Is it by USB? I too have one, connected by USB but it's on a Win98 machine and has never given me a problem. How about the UPS? Do you have its software running to "gently" shut down the system in the event of a power loss? I have no idea how that process interfaces with XP. I know I'm on a fishing expedition here, but I can't think of anything to do except maybe disable or uninstall a couple of devices and see if the problem continues.

    Of course, what Leif suggested about the Task Manager minimizing is worth another look-see. If you were to repeat his suggestion, and when the freeze happens, look in Task Manager and see if there's a clue. Otherwise, I'm out of ideas..... Let's keep trying though.....

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    Re: Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    Do appreciate you sticking with this with me.
    The scanner is USB and I have "pulled the plug" on this & disabled it temporarily.
    The UPS is an older model "Back Ups Office" by APC and it is strictly a passive battery back up, with a certain amount of reserve time to back out and there are no optional software settings with it.
    Minimizing the Task Manager didn't help because I couldn't get to it during the freeze to see what might be happening.
    I do definitely think the device disconnect-reconnect messages are the clue but how to pin them down might be the hard thing to do.
    This sure does keep your mind active though.......................
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    Re: Short system 'freeze' up (XP Home)

    That's right, Al, At first there was no problem with the initial install. I do add and remove and change a lot of things. (tinkerer).
    But here goes with the HARDWARE on my machine:
    Celeron 700 CPU with 448 MB ram. (soon to be changed to Pentium 4, 2.0GB & new Mobo)
    Two HD's, 10 GB & 20 GB.
    Creative 52x CD ROM
    Sony CDRW
    3/1/2"floppy of course
    19" Sony FS Monitor
    Umax 3400 scanner
    HP 920c printer
    Creative sound with bass box & 2 aux speakers
    DSL modem & NIC card
    APC power UPS
    MS optical wheel mouse

    I thinks that's about it off the top of my head anyway.
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