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    Netscape 6.01 for Windows

    > Speaking of NS...
    > Has anybody tried 6.1 yet?
    > Is it better? Have the bugs gone?

    I just downloaded it this week. I never tried 6.0 but I'm guessing it's much better but still has a ways to go. Most web pages seem to work well but some do not work properly at all (mostly Java/Javascript based pages). Seems to work OK for wopr lounge, though. There are some annoyances like the fact that Alt Text for images isn't displayed when the cursor is over the image. It too often crashes without warning (but hell all versions of IE crash on me too). Since I've disabled Java, however, the random crashing has been rare.

    The claim of being "fast" and "lite" is hard to believe. Interface feels slow though actual web page rendering is relatively fast.

    However, the ability to fine-control cookies and do things like permanently disable cookies from domains such as doubleclick (and permanently enable domains such as wopr.com) is just what the doctor ordered. You can also view & edit(remove) your cookies.

    Also they've finally added the ability to have multiple POP email accounts in the Mail tool. Plus it now interfaces with Microsoft's IME so I can directly write email in foreign languages (used to have to cut & paste). So I guess I will stick with it and use it for mail and browsing and continue using IE as a back up browser.

    They have not added a print-preview feature. Other features such as integrating search engines directly or the My Sidebar are just candy but who knows I could find myself relying on them in the future.

    Unless you have problems with your current browsing (or really really hate cookies), I would recommend NOT updating until the next release.

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    Re: Netscape 6.01 for Windows

    Hi, mc! Thanks for the tips. I do believe I'll wait a bit more.[img]/w3timages/icons/nuts.gif[/img]
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    Re: Netscape 6.01 for Windows

    We are running into the same problem with Java sites. Since we are moving to Oracle GUI for all our Oracle Applications and Oracle GUI relies on Java, we are sticking with Netscape 4.76. We also experienced seemingly random lockups while we were testing.

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    Re: Netscape 6.01 for Windows

    I'm sorry, but I don't get it. I understand they re-wrote Netscape 6 from scratch, but in 6 and 6.01, there's no page setup or print preview. These are not new programming concepts.

    When I downloaded 6, it worked, however I made the wise decision to not overwrite my 4.7x installation. What amazed me was going from the Microsoft Access Newsgroup on the left side of the screen, to a message on the right. The time it took was incredible. No matter what newsgroup I went to, if I then clicked the message listing on the right side of the screen, it would take a bit of time.

    Regardless of what people are being told about its speed etc., I see it as a resource PIG.

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    Re: Netscape 6.01 for Windows

    > Has anybody tried 6.1 yet?
    > Is it better? Have the bugs gone?

    NOT fast, NOT lite.
    I tried NS 6.01 on a Win95 PC with 32 MB RAM and a 133 MHz processor (it belonged to a friend - not me - honestly). The pages themselves loaded only as fast as the 4.7 version, but as <font color=blue>mdchachi</font color=blue> says, the GUI was EXTREMELY slow to render (like 20 to 30 seconds per screen). Opening new windows (in order to use the mail program, for example) was torture. I uninstalled NS, deleted the setup files, and reclaimed well over 60 MB of disk space, which on this old system was pretty significant. Since IE 5 was installed with Office, we updated to IE 5.5 SP1 and haven't had a single crash since. IE also runs MUCH quicker.

    NS 6.0 may run well on a *nix box (I don't know), but doesn't do so well under Windows. I tested some of the Preview Releases on a fully-loaded brand new system, and NS 6.00 crashed almost every single page. Having once been an advocate of Netscape's browser, I would advise everyone against it today.

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    Re: Netscape 6.01 for Windows

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    NS 6.0 may run well on a *nix box (I don't know), but doesn't do so well under Windows. I tested some of the Preview Releases on a fully-loaded brand new system, and NS 6.00 crashed almost every single page. Having once been an advocate of Netscape's browser, I would advise everyone against it today.
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    I've been using NS6.01 daily now for the past week. The crashing completely stopped after I disabled Java in the preferences. So part of the problem could be Sun Micro's Java software, not that that is any consolation for your average user.
    The slower interface is not a significant problem on a newer machine but I could see how it could be impossible to use on an older machine. I was impressed to find this week that not only does NS Mail take MS IME foreign language input but so does Composer so I could make a quick web page in Japanese. (Although Win 2000 takes IME input, Frontpage 2000 does not -- what's up with that?). And I could also choose the character set in which to render the page. Cool.

    I'm sticking with NS6 for normal browsing since I really love the cookie controls and, as I said, the crashing problem has disappeared for the moment. NS 6 Mail has been working well for me as well. I'll let you know if I find out anything else.

    I also checked out Opera for the first time. It renders pages so fast it almost makes you wonder what IE and NS is doing -- do they spy on you and send info to Microsoft or AOL/TW on every page? [img]/w3timages/icons/devil.gif[/img]

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    Re: Netscape 6.01 for Windows

    Maybe i'm wishing for flying piglets, [img]/w3timages/icons/oink.gif[/img], but is there any way to install NS6.01 while keeping 4.7 intact in Win98? Without dual-booting the system?
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    Re: Netscape 6.01 for Windows

    <font color=448800>Maybe i'm wishing for flying piglets, , but is there any way to install NS6.01 while keeping 4.7 intact in Win98? Without dual-booting the system? </font color=448800>

    Yes, just install into a different directory. It's not a problem as far as I know
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    Re: Netscape 6.01 for Windows

    Do any of you know if 6.1 incorporates the TrueDoc technology? <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.wopr.com/cgi-bin/w3t/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=htm&Number=28582&page=0 &view=expanded&sb=5&vc=1#Post28582>See this post</A>
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    Re: Netscape 6.01 for Windows

    I here that Netscape 6 doesn't have nsnotify.exe, which is what notifies you if you have new mail. Anyone know if that's true of 6.01 also?

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    Re: Netscape 6.01 for Windows

    Haven't tried NS 6.01, but reading this thread led me to try to clear up one point.

    Whatever problems NS 6.x has with java is not the Sun JVM.

    I use StarOffice 5.2 and Opera 5.10, both of which rely on the Sun JVM for Java and JavaScript support, and neither crash (unless the crash is triggered by another running program and cascades onto everything running). Likely, it is Netscape's hook into the JVM that are causing the crashes.

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