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    Wireless Optical Mouse

    Would like to know if anyone has used or heard of the Marketchamp rechargeable wireless optical mouse? I wore out my IntelliMouse

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    Re: Wireless Optical Mouse

    For what it's worth, Bruce, I use a wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse (for about a year and a half) and I love 'em both. They use standard batteries, which seem to last about six months or so. Unless you've got some objection, you ought to look at the current Logitech product line.

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    Re: Wireless Optical Mouse

    Hi Bruce
    Make sure that the recharegeable batteries in the mouse you're thinking of are removable and exchangeable with standard types (or there is a proprietory battery back-up pack). If you've been using the MS USB Wireless Intellimouse Explorer you'll already be using this method, and will have a set of batteries charged up and ready to go at all times. BTW I still think this is the superior kit - though how you managed to wear out something with no moving parts beats me....
    If the batteries are fixed, you have a potential problem with the cradle method. A long session which runs down the batteries, will leave you having to wait for the mouse to recharge before you can use your computer. Unless, that is, you've also opted for a wireless keyboard (well worth it) with a built in nipple/track pad, so you have a stand-by. As long as you know how to set up multiple mice (I've had three up and working just for the hell of it : no practical value) you need never be without mouse control.

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    Re: Wireless Optical Mouse

    Hi Al
    If you get six months out of your mouse batteries, that's pretty good going - as I know you use your computer a fair bit. Keyboard life : about the same as mine.
    Is the Logitech kit, as well as wireless, also an optical (i.e. trackball- and ball -less)? Both ideas are good ones, but the combination is unbeatable. I have a feeling that a lot of my mouse's juice trickles away, not in transmitting the signal to the IR receiver, but in providing the intense underlight needed to make sense of the substrate. With a set of rechargeables always to hand there's no down-time to speak of.
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    Re: Wireless Optical Mouse

    Al, have you ever had flaky problems with your Logitech mouse? I've forever been dissatisfied with their drivers, although the products are good. Can't say that I use a wireless keyboard . Prior to my Intellimouse addicition I had a wireless Logitech unit, and it was wonderful until the base unit started to go south. Once that happened it wasn't worth it to order a replacement, when I could get a whole new set. I don't think that experience was representative of Logitech's entire line though.

    I've been using various iterations of the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer for quite some time (over a year and a half) and I don't think I will ever change to an alternate brand - there simply is no compelling reason for me to look elsewhere. I own two with a tail and one without, which travels with my laptop most times. Battery life is very good with that unit, if I don't get to six months then I feel as though I've been taken on the last set of batteries (I use alkaline, not rechargeables).

    I have noted a problem that seems to exist with ALL wireless critters that are connected via USB - jumping pointers. At times the pointer becomes hyper-sensitive and uncontrollable. This goes away when you a) pick up the critter and set it down again or [img]/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif[/img] use the PS/2 adapter. Some time ago I opened up a poll in this very forum to see how this affected others....and today I still can't tell you exactly why. I can't test it on a Win9x system, so I can only say that this occurs under 2000 and XP.
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    Re: Wireless Optical Mouse

    Bruce....check out the wireless Intellimouse optical. Incredible piece of equipment, if you want my <img src=/S/2cents.gif border=0 alt=2cents width=15 height=15>.

    http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouse/wie_info.asp
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    Re: Wireless Optical Mouse

    <IMG SRC=http://www.krymow.com/images/mouse.gif>MerC ~

    The IntelliMouse I am using is just the standard type. I haven't used a cordless before and I guess it never crossed my mind the manner in which they were powered. They typically use batteries, huh? The one you consider the superior kit - are you referring to the Wireless Intellimouse or the MarketChamp?

    I do have a touchpad on this Notebook, but that was a good caveat on the battery set-up. I haven't heard of this brand and was hoping someone else had. I would rather stick with a namebrand item I can rely on. Is the one you mentioned optical as well?

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    Logitech makes so many that the differences seem indistinguishable among the wireless opticals. How do I know one is better that the other?

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    Re: Wireless Optical Mouse

    Hi Bruce
    Mark's message and URL says it all. If you want the best get the MS Wireless USB Intellimouse Explorer. It is an IR device, and optical (no dirty balls) to boot. It is rather hard on batteries (being optical, a strong light has to be shone on the surface on which it runs) but rechargeables take care of that. I think the long battery lives mentioned previously are for wireless devices that are NOT optical. If you go for the flexibility offered by wireless, it seems a pity to restrict oneself to the need for a mouse mat and a clean surface by going for a mechanical balled type.
    I don't know the brand your asking about, but I do know the cradle idea has the potential downfall I mentioned earlier. Have a look around for other wireless opticals - there are several obtainable over here, but don't go for a mouse which is one but not the other.
    I have not had a problem with jumping pointers, but on occasion the pointer will freeze, and the mouse has to be clicked once to get it moving again.

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    Re: Wireless Optical Mouse

    I should have made it more clear in my post that my Logitech mouse is NOT optical. It's just a standard Logitech enhanced keyboard with internet controls and a regular ball-type mouse. But I haven't a bit of trouble out of either one. If you guys are sold on optical, then it's a moot point.

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    Re: Wireless Optical Mouse

    That page had some great info. I had been considering one of the thumb jobs or the trigger style you can hold in your lap, but maybe I should stay somewhat conventional. That M$ page had some great info. That seems like a really nice product, although I must admit I was taken aback by the $75 ticket. What type of batteries does this unit power on? I didn't see any mention of such.

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    Re: Wireless Optical Mouse

    I don't have mine handy but I believe it's AA. Batteries, of course. You can find them much cheaper somewhere else, and remember also that the wireless Explorer is Microsoft's top mouse, you will also see two wireless mice - not optical jobs, though. Seems remiss to me. Why not check out the mouse selection guide?

    Al, I don't think it's a moot point- I don't like Logitech mice because of the software. The hardware - great. But their drivers have forever been buggy, and I was curious as to your experiences with it.
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    Re: Wireless Optical Mouse

    I did check out the selection guided with scrutiny. Just didn't see any particulars on the DC of this hardware. I definitely want the wireless/optical unit. I would swear I saw a cordless/optical unit that you hold quasi-pistol like in your lap. Anyone recall seeing this in an IT ad some-a-wheres??

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    Re: Wireless Optical Mouse

    I didn't mention the model 'cause I figured after all this time, it's probably outdated (I guess it's closer to two years). Anyway, I have to 'fess up and admit that in January 2002, when I installed XP Pro, I have never bothered to install any Logitech drivers 'cause XP is dealing with the mouse just fine and I hardly ever used all the internet buttons on the keyboard anyway. Prior to installing XP though, this machine had WinME on it and the Logitech drivers didn't act up at all, strange as that may seem (WinME!). The internet control buttons and audio controls on the KB worked fine. On the mouse too - it has a thumb button on the left side that I had to turn off, since I'm left handed and my pinky kept hitting the thing. It has a hair-trigger.

    I wanted the curved (natural) keyboard and didn't care about all the controls. Win XP Device Manager thinks the mouse is "PS/2 Compatible" and it assumed the wheel is present. I never touched the default settings. In the final analysis, I guess you're right about their sometimes flaky drivers. While I was still at KET I had some trouble with a few Logitech three-button'ers and a couple of thumb-ball trackballs. We got a few where the driver disketttes weren't even readable. I think they were in the Version 8.x range but I'm not sure. I might just go take a look at their site and see where the drivers are.

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    Re: Wireless Optical Mouse

    Just in case you DO decide to lean in the direction of Logitech rather than MS, I thought of something I should tell you. I forgot in my earlier reply to Mark that the ONLY thing I don't like about the Logitech KB-Mouse pair I bought IS on the keyboard. Not a show stopper, but for what it's worth - you know the control keys between the keyboard and the number pad? (Page up, Page Down, etc.) On my Logitech they're arranged in three rows of two buttons each, rather than TWO rows of three. That took some getting used to. No big deal, but I just wanted to mention it.

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    Re: Wireless Optical Mouse

    Hi Bruce
    I would not advise using alkaline batteries with an optical device, unless you are very, very rich. As mentioned earlier, opticals are heavy on juice so invest in a minimum of 6 RECHARGEABLES - and a trickle charger, of course. It'll save you money in the long run.
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