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    Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    Looking for built-in Windows or 3rd-party utility with same functionality as the WIN 98 Resource Meter for WIN XP. I know that CTL-ALT-DEL will launch Windows XP Task Manager, which is a great improvement over its predecessor, but am looking for simple, small, efficient, unobtrusive program that can run in System Tray like the WIN 98 RM. The WIN 98 executable (RSRCMTR.EXE) was a whopping 32 KB in size while RSRC32.DLL weighed in at a hefty 24 KB.

    Trying to run the WIN 98 executable on WIN XP system predictably resulted in colorful error msg, as illustrated below. Predictable in sense that WIN XP manages memory in a wholly different (and improved) manner than WIN 98.

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    Re: Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    Coolmon can play all sorts of resource monitoring tricks. Its free, and is at http://www.arsware.org...... at least it will be once they've changed hosts - looks like an excellent freeware site got hacked and nuked circa 27/7, so you may have to be patient for a day or so.

    If their restore takes too long, PM me & I can send you the exe (689kb).

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    Re: Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    Thanx, will check out. (Here at work we still use WIN 98....)

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    Re: Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    Thunking is exactly what you described. 16-bit and 32-bit code are vastly different animals, and a 16-bit program cannot directly access the 32-bit APIs (application programming interface) exposed to it. Thus, a middleman is needed to translate, and the process is called "thunking." Thunking comes with a price - there is additional overhead because of the additional code, additional processor time - so it's best avoided when possible.

    Just curious, what makes you feel that 32KB is "whopping"? That seems very small to me, particularly in this day and age of bloated code.
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    Re: Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    Thanx for further explanation of THUNK. I'd never seen the term before and thought it sounded cool so was curious what it meant.

    My reference to a "whopping 32 KB" was meant to be facetious. I was trying to emphasize fact that am looking for a similarly small & efficient program, not a big fat bloated one.

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    Re: Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> OK, now I feel better....I missed the <img src=/S/sarcasm.gif border=0 alt=sarcasm width=15 height=15> in that post!

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    Re: Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    I'm using TClockEx which has a "Memory Load" utility builtin that you access with a mouseover on the Clock itself. Not sure if this would meet your needs, but it's free and TClockEx is just a great little freeware program with all kinds of neat extras and no bloat. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    See it here: http://users.mweb.co.za/d/da/dalen/tclockex.htm
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    Re: Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    Pilgrin, I thought that some of TClockX's metering capabilities do not operate in NT/W2000/XP? Can you enlighten us?
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    Re: Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    John,

    That is correct. Because Win XP is different than Win 9.x the metering utilities not usuable. But the "Memory Load" function does work and well. The author has provided some documentation on the builtin "Tooltips" which restrictions and functions are similar to NT/2000:

    Windows NT<UL>TClockEx works with current versions of Windows NT, but with some caveats. The system/GDI resource features don't work because NT doesn't use resources in the same way that Win95/98 did. The CPU usage meter doesn't work because I haven't figured that part out yet (coming soon...).[/list]Windows XP<UL>TClockEx works on Windows XP more or less the same as on Windows 2000 and Windows NT. The same restrictions apply to CPU and memory monitoring. If you use the classic (Windows 95) desktop theme, there is little or no difference.

    If you use a desktop theme other than Classic, TClockEx's display is not so nice because it does not have a transparency option that would allow the colour scheme of the desktop theme to show through. There is a technical reason for this limitation. I hope one day to be able to work around it. However TClockEx does actually work correctly, except for the display issue. Depending on the theme you choose, you may not even notice the difference.

    Did you know if you make the Windows XP task bar double-height, the standard clock panel also shows the date? This is at least an improvement on earlier versions of Windows, but still no customisation. There is still life for TClockEx yet![/list]Jeff
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    Re: Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    How nice to see someone else trumpeting the virtues of this great little applet. For anyone interested, I posted screen shots of my customized tool tip and clock display on my personal download page along with the code used to create it. It gives you an idea of what it looks like in operation under Windows 2000 (I've used it in XP also, with the Fisher Price color scheme turned off).
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    Re: Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    I downloaded TClockEx, it seems like a neat little program, slim & trim, but when ran TCLOCKEX.EXE to install program I get thunked again <img src=/S/bash.gif border=0 alt=bash width=35 height=39> (see attd illo). It added date to Taskbar clock, as illustrated, and a thin green line which is I guess the "memory load line"? But otherwise nothing indicates what percentage of memory, resources, etc are in use (as was previously noted) --I reckon this functionality doesn't work in WIN 2K or XP. If nothing else I like having the date in Taskbar along with clock, I am always mousing-over time to check date....

    Thanx to all for suggestions. Still looking for any other "Resource Meter" type programs out there.
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    Re: Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    Mark, you've apparently got a problem with WIndows itself. One application, I could chalk up to "whoops" by the developer. Two is mighty suspicious. I believe you have a DLL conflict somewhere - a version mismatch, and it's probably causing other problems too. What OS are you using?

    TClockEx will show only one bar - the memory line. You can configure the tool tip and clock display to show you nearly everything else, as I noted in my previous post - I have sample settings that you can use as a model on my personal website.
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    Re: Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    Using Windows XP Home Ed. Using for short time only, pre-installed on new PC. I assume I got similar error msg because both programs are designed for WIN 9.X (regarding memory usage) and when trying to access same function in WIN XP version of KERNEL32.DLL an error is generated.

    Took a look at sample settings on site, for now configured tooltip to show free memory. As discussed previously, in WIN XP the CPU Usage and System Resources apparently do not work - when added these options tooltip displayed "0%" (see attd illo).

    I'll have to check some of the other stuff on your Downloads page - for instance, I've always used stuff like Tweak UI with WIN 95 & WIN 98, but have read conflicting reports on whether its advisable to use with WIN XP....
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    Re: Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    An upgrade from 98, perhaps? I've never had a problem like this with TClockEx, across every version of Windows since 95. You can use the System File Checker tool to check for version conflicts, a favorite standby of mine. I would have concerns about the error because I think it has deeper implications.

    I haven't tested the CPU and system resources under XP, but it's worth a look when I am back in front of my XP machine. It's the best way to eliminate possibilities if nothing else.

    RE: TweakUI - don't use any previous versions with XP. Most of the functions will work, but there is a version explicitly designed for XP (both are on the page you referred to, and the XP version has a link back to the official Microsoft download site). It's much nicer IMHO - give it a whirl, I don't think anyone should be without that little tool!!
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    Re: Resource Meter for WIndows XP??

    Mark it does appear that you have some kind of "glitch" that is causing this error. But in regard to the "resources" readout with TClockex, perhaps you missed my previous reply to another inquirer in this thread? I have pasted it here for you again:

    That is correct. Because Win XP is different than Win 9.x the metering utilities are not usuable. But the <font color=red>"Memory Load"</font color=red> function does work and well. The author has provided some documentation on the builtin "Tooltips" which restrictions and functions are similar to NT/2000:

    Windows NT

    TClockEx works with current versions of Windows NT, but with some caveats. The system/GDI resource features don't work because NT doesn't use resources in the same way that Win95/98 did. The CPU usage meter doesn't work because I haven't figured that part out yet (coming soon...).

    Windows XP
    TClockEx works on Windows XP more or less the same as on Windows 2000 and Windows NT. The same restrictions apply to CPU and memory monitoring. If you use the classic (Windows 95) desktop theme, there is little or no difference.

    If you use a desktop theme other than Classic, TClockEx's display is not so nice because it does not have a transparency option that would allow the colour scheme of the desktop theme to show through. There is a technical reason for this limitation. I hope one day to be able to work around it. However TClockEx does actually work correctly, except for the display issue. Depending on the theme you choose, you may not even notice the difference.

    Did you know if you make the Windows XP task bar double-height, the standard clock panel also shows the date? This is at least an improvement on earlier versions of Windows, but still no customisation. There is still life for TClockEx yet!

    Jeff

    PS: Because you are using XP, you no longer have to concern yourself with "resources". The O/S is far different than the Win 9.x series. With XP, you simply use it and enjoy! <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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