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    Format C: and reinstall

    Format C: and reinstall.

    For various reasons I am convinced I must do this. I will backup everything. I have Norton Ghost and a spare hard disk to send it to but I can't see how this will save me from having to reinstall Win98 SE, Office 2000 and all my other applications from their original disks and then go through the laborious process of again downloading the Windows and Office updates.

    As an aside: Is there some way of saving these downloads for future use instead of investing the hours of doing it online?

    Much of my data is on a partition separate from C drive but much is on C. It must be located saved and restored separately from operating system and applications to achieve my aim of a clean fresh restore.

    Can someone please direct me to a plan of action which will tell me where to find and separate all my data including email, favourites etc. I use Internet Explorer 5.5 and Outlook Express. Hopefully someone has prepared an instrucion leaflet for doing this but as yet I haven't looked at the right places on the 'net.

    Cheers, J.

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    Re: Format C: and reinstall

    Not sure that I have the answers to all your questions, but you might try this link for some information on reinstall and format.

    As far as the Windows Update Files, you can select the option of saving them to disk as opposed to downloading only the files you need. It is a fairly large download, but if I remember correctly, there is a built in download manager in the event you get disconnected. I usually save a copy of any files I download in a specific directory in the event I need to reinstall them.

    Not sure but I believe you should be able to copy the favorites folder to disk.

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    Re: Format C: and reinstall

    <hr>Not sure but I believe you should be able to copy the favorites folder to disk<hr>
    You sure can. I zip mine and stuff it on my webserver so that I can update my favorites at the office. They're just like any other shortcut/folder on the hard drive (in fact, I've gotten to where I also keep some files in there too).
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    Re: Format C: and reinstall

    Mark, in a somewhat unrelated question to the original post, to what extent does/do items in the Start menu affect system boot up speed and performance? I have a huge amount of things that I have put in the Start menu folder on purpose, simply because I do not want to create a bunch of shortcuts to the various items, yet I want them to be available through the popup Start menu interface. Things like 500 or so mp3s, Excel spreadsheets, many Word documents, etc. When W98 boots, does it take in to account all of the items in the Start menu and load somewhere some of the information necessary to run these items on short notice? Or is it just like any other folder? My Windows/Start Menu folder is 1.32 gigs...

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    Re: Format C: and reinstall

    The Start Menu folder itself doesn't affect startup - the boot process - in any way save what is in Start - Programs - Startup. Anything in that folder is executed at boot, so if you have a lot of shortcuts in there, it will slow things down some. Windows doesn't actually load the contents of the Start Menu until you click on it, and it does that every time you open it.

    The other consideration I can think of for the Start Menu is that the more items you have in one single folder, the longer it will take Windows to read the contents from your hard drive and consequently display. That's true everywhere in the OS, not just in the Start Menu.

    I don't use the Start Menu as often as I do the Desktop toolbar. I live off of that because it cascades the Control Panel, My Documents, My Computer, Network Neighborood (if it's on the desktop) and the Recycle Bin. Every desktop icon is also present. Any folder you add to the desktop will also cascade from this menu (so why the Start Menu can't do the same thing is beyond me, I'd just as soon hide it but that's where the shut down and log off commands live).

    The attached screen shot is from my Windows XP desktop, so you won't see the chevrons (double arrows) pointing to the left - those are the "hidden" tray icons that are new to XP. But as I've written this I realized that it's a nifty little workaround for another post!
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    Re: Format C: and reinstall

    Mike,

    Thanks for that. I'll read, learn and inwardly digest in conjunction with a five page list of instructions I have received from another source. If it all makes sense I'll post it here after I have done the deed.

    Cheers, J.

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    Re: Format C: and reinstall

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    Mike and others,

    The procedure to which you directed me was indeed useful. I did some more sniffing around as follows.

    A guide as to what one should back up may be found at:

    http://www.melbpc.org.au/report/whatfiles.pdf

    I found this a good guide but I couldn't divine any way to save/recover Message Rules.

    Recovering *.wab files requires them to be copied into the new C:WINDOWSApplication DataMicrosoftAddress Book. I thought I would play it safe and rename that folder to C:WINDOWSApplication DataMicrosoftAddress Book1 in case I did something wrong. I then copied the old Address Book to C:WINDOWSApplication DataMicrosoft. It seems the registry can't find it unless it is in the same position in the scheme of things. To summarise; copy the old data into the new folder, don't rename the new folder and drag the old folder across.

    The same approach applies to Favourites and probably email messages but I did that right first try!

    I also found http://www.iopus.com/guides/oe-backup.htm useful. It has info on Mail Rules but I chickened out. Maybe I'll try when I catch up with myself or else enter new rules as needed.

    Cheers, velocity

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    Re: Format C: and reinstall

    One of the earlier posts implied that it was possible to store updates for later use but I can't figure how to do it. My experiences are as follows:

    I have rebuilt my hardware (again) and am reloading and upgrading my software.

    1. I'll start with the simpler question. Microsoft used to have a facility which would examine one's computer and advise what downloads were required. I can't find it. Does it still exist?

    2. In less than a month I'll be 73. Doing just about no paid work anymore so no cashflow to justify expenditure on continual upgrades. I'm quite happy to stick with W98SE and Office 2000 and the other programs of that vintage which serve me well enough. If I upgrade the operating system my present versions of Partition Magic and Norton Ghost probably won't work and I don't want to spend on them either.

    What happens if I have a hard-disk disaster? I'll prepare for that by burning CD backups but sometimes things get in a mess and it is best to do a clean install rather than restore an image of the old mess. So I'll have to get out the out-of-date originally purchased software and then find that Microsoft have ceased to support it and it can't be updated to the required security level.

    The reason it won't be possible is that they have the on-line download and install procedure that doesn't allow one to store the updates for future use. They do have a page

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/d.../corporate.asp

    which contains a bunch of updates but doesn't indicate which are necessary for what version of the original software. As yet I don't know if the downloads are real software or just downloaders for the real stuff. Or indeed if on downloading they give the usual mis-indication of what it is. Typically a download will say something like

    "Do you want to download and install or save to disk for later installation?"

    This implies that a save will provide a piece of software for later use. It doesn't, it gives a downloader/installer that leaves one in the position I am trying to avoid. No doubt it makes it easier for the moment, but is it directed to user friendliness or to make life difficult for people that want to stay at the current level of software as I do?

    Is there some way I can download real software upgrades that don't immediately install? If Microsoft cease to have them available what else can be done?

    Also I'd like to avoid hours on line dowloading again stuff that, because of hardware problems, I have recently had to do twice in one month with, no doubt, a nice charge to come from my ISP?

    Cheers, velocity

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