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    Categories & rules vs spam (2000 SP2)

    My ISP does not use any filtering service such as SpamAssassin, but instead scans subject and header information for message characteristics that exhibit a high probability of being spam. Despite their efforts we still end up receiving a substantial pile of <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> but they have said that if we forward the messages that get through to their spam handler they will try to adjust their filters. I created a "Spam" category and a matching rule to forward and then delete any "Spam"-categorized messages. In order to have this work as intended there are a couple of questions I'd like to get the answers to / help with:

    <UL><LI>In order to preserve the header information I have to "Forward as attachment". Can the attached message be read by a program other than Outlook? I don't know what sort of program they have at their end, but want to make sure they can receive the offending message.
    <LI>Is it possible to create a toolbar item that can assign a specified category to a message without having to open the usual dialogue, scroll to the selection, check the box, and close?
    <LI>I tested the rule to forward/delete the selected message, manually running it on all messages in my Inbox. However, the rule does not activate under normal Send/Receive operations. Can a rule be created that would check messages at times other than when received?[/list]I know that I can create a rule to check the subject and header when received and then automatically perform the forward & delete actions, but I want to keep the manual classification option. Perhaps I am just asking a little too much of Outlook? In any regard, your input would be appreciated. <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15>

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    Re: Categories & rules vs spam (2000 SP2)

    > Can the attached message be read by a program other than Outlook?
    The format looks pretty straightforward to me (see attached). It might render differently on the receiving end, but there appears to be nothing special at all about the raw mail text.

    > Is it possible to create a toolbar item that can assign a specified category to a message without having to open the usual dialogue, scroll to the selection, check the box, and close?
    Sounds like a fun macro programming project. I posted something in Word or in VBA that would populate a toolbar dropdown with a list and take action when a list item is selected. In this case, the drop-down could be populated with categories, and the selected category could be added to the categories of the selected mail item(s). No time to convert it myself, but is that what you have in mind?

    > Can a rule be created that would check messages at times other than when received?
    Don't see it in the list, but maybe there's a way to schedule it to run??

    FYI, there is now a version of SpamAssassin for Outlook 2000 and Outlook 2002, SpamAssassin Pro. It's available from its developer, Deersoft. During the first month I used it, it caught about 91% of the junk. I did have to "whitelist" the Lounge newsletters and some other newsletters, as they were misdetected as junk. So far, no real mail has been misdetected. I also had to turn off my own junk rules, because when both SpamAssassin Pro and my rule detected a message as junk, I would get an error from Outlook that my rule could not move the message (because, duh, it had already been moved). Disclosure: I do legal work for Deersoft.

    <font color=blue>Afterthought:</font color=blue> You could run SpamAssassin Pro for the 14 day trial period and send big batches of spam to your ISP from your Junk Mail folder...after double-checking that they meet your criteria.
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