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    97 Styles mess up in 2000 (Word97-Word2k)

    All Word97 docs were created with templates and use styles. All styles in Word97 were created using the existing named Word style (e.g., body text) but modifying it to comply with company standards.
    We now get WinXP and Word2k. When we open a Word97 file into Word2k, styles and numbering are totally reformatted. We try to modify the style in the doc open in 2000, save close and reopen. The changes do not hold.

    Help! We cannot use office 2000 until these problems are resolved. I've just been on the phone with Microsoft for 4 hours. They escalated the call to their research team. I'm finding acknowledgements all over that people know about the problem but there does not seem to be any solutions.

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    Re: 97 Styles mess up in 2000 (Word97-Word2k)

    I'm really pretty clueless, but to get the discussion going:

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    Re: 97 Styles mess up in 2000 (Word97-Word2k)

    Hi Klaus -

    I work with the originator of this post. Attached you will find a one page document with our situation. I will attempt to explain the situation. First of all, please understand that this document was created OUTSIDE of any template. Created completely from scratch using Word 97 Normal.dot and using only the styles we created and shipped enterprise-wide with the Normal.dot.

    General - is Heading one. (Normally our templates will assign a number to it like 1.0 or 1.1. However, in this case the numbering was taken off for this document.)
    Body Text - this should be 1.5 line spacing for this document. (Our Normal.dot in Word 97 and Word 2000 both ship to the user with a line spacing of 1.2)

    Now the problem...we make the logical assumption that one would simply go into Heading 1 Style, dig to China and remove the numbering associated with the heading. It takes the number off the heading style and all is well. We set the spacing through the Body Text style to 1.5 for this document. We save the file. We close the file. We reopen the file and we are right back to where we started...none of our chages have taken effect and HELD.

    The work around at this point is to write new styles for the document and search and replace all the tweaky styles. This is not a good solution, but it works for right now. <img src=/S/hosed.gif border=0 alt=hosed width=73 height=24>

    When a document from Word97 is pulled into Word 2000 the Compatibility automatically changes from Word 2000 to Word97. There is nothing checked that would mess with the numbering. The documents are not "attached" to any template because the file was created from Word97 Normal.dot. NOTE: Our Word 2000 Normal.dot was created directly from the Word97 Normal.dot with the exception of a few macros being added. Unfortunately, because no template was used, we cannot "auto update document styles." What is so very very odd about all of this is the fact that our Normal.dot carries the exact same styles and numbering features that were in 97.
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    Re: 97 Styles mess up in 2000 (Word97-Word2k)

    In "Tools > Templates and Add-Ins...", "Automatically update document syles" is checked.

    So every time you open the document, the styles from your normal.dot are copied into the document.

    Word97 didn't allow you to automatically update styles from normal.dot, so the setting had no effect.
    Word2000 makes no difference between normal.dot and any other template, so the styles are updated.

    I think your only chance is to deactivate that setting in Word97 for each document. Perhaps you can write a batch macro to do the job.

    I hope you consider to change your company policies. You really should use custom templates (and a few different ones for different kinds of documents).
    You still could customize normal.dot to reflect your preferences, but this template should be on each user's machine, and customizable by the user to reflect his personal preferences (toolbars, AutoText, AutoCorrect, keyboard shortcuts, macros ...), whereas your company template(s) need only exist once, and can be protected against changes.

    You could still use the /ttemplatename switch so that Word starts with an empty document based on a custom template of your choice.

    <img src=/S/cheers.gif border=0 alt=cheers width=30 height=16>Klaus

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    Re: 97 Styles mess up in 2000 (Word97-Word2k)

    Hi Kenneth:
    Let me expand on one thing Klaus mentioned. You mentioned that the paragraph spacing had changed also. One thing you should know is that in Word 97, Word added the space below a paragraph to the space above set on the next paragraph. Word 2000 doesn't do this. Under Tools/Options/Compatibility..., there is an item that says "Don't use HTML paragraph auto spacing". If this boxed is checked, Word will use the Word 97 behavior, if unchecked, it will use the Word 2000 behavior. By default, the box is checked if compatibility is set for MS Word 97.
    Cheers,

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    Re: 97 Styles mess up in 2000 (Word97-Word2k)

    Phil and Klaus,

    Thank you so much for your assistance in this matter. The solution seems to be to uncheck that nasty little box on Word 97 "Automatically Update Styles" then save the document from Word 97. Then when the document is opened in Word 2000, not a single problem! <img src=/S/salute.gif border=0 alt=salute width=15 height=20> Thanks!

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    Re: 97 Styles mess up in 2000 (Word97-Word2k)

    Glad that's sorted out! And, as I said before, if you have lots of documents where you have to clear that setting, it should be possible to write a Word97 batch macro to do that for all docs in a folder (including subfolders if necessary).

    Greetings to Nancy (who posted on the Word newsgroups),

    <img src=/S/cheers.gif border=0 alt=cheers width=30 height=16> Klaus

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