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    Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    In the past I used Outlook Express because it came with IE. Then I thought...gee, maybe there's an e-mail program that is a little better than OE. So I considered Eudora and Calypso, but since I already use some software by Isbister I thought I'd try their new e-mail program ExpressPlus. Well, it still needs some work - not bad, but not great yet - so I switched back to OE because I realized I don't want to go and waste money on a program just to try it out. So I thought again...Don - ask the people who know stuff. So I'm asking - basically, what is the best e-mail software? I don't care if I have to pay for it, as long as it's something I will keep, but I despise having to import/export my old messages every time I try something new, and would love to find something I could live with. OE is ok, but it lacks a few things (unfortunately I can't really put my finger on it), although the general layout is ok - I hate jumble, and one of the things I would really enjoy is a program where I could control the size of the font that lists the messages, so I don't have to scroll left or right to see the entire header or other information - know what I mean? Newsgroup support would be ok but isn't essential. I use Outlook at work and while I'm used to the interface, I would rather use something else at home.

    Thanks - in advance - for any helpful suggestions.
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    Re: Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    Don,

    My personal favourite, and one I've been using for 7 or 8 years, is Pegasus Mail.

    Have a look at the posts starting at <post#=174534>post 174534</post#> and on down through that thread.

    Also, have a look at the thread I <img src=/S/jollyroger.gif border=0 alt=jollyroger width=29 height=18> <img src=/S/pirate.gif border=0 alt=pirate width=22 height=18> starting at <post#=171955>post 171955</post#>,

    I recommend Pegasus to anyone and EVERYONE that will listen. It does take some getting used too, especially ifyou get a lot of HTML mail. I don't and prefer NOT to get HTML mail, so it's a non-issue for me.

    It doesn't support newsgroups, since it's an e-mail client and not a newsreader. You can, however change the font size and font face.

    Feel free to ask any questions that you may have of Pegasus and I will answer them, if I can.
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    Re: Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    Hi Don

    If you've been following the Lounge lately, you've noticed that Pegasus seems to be the flavor of the month.
    As for me, I'm happy with the Email component in Mozilla....It's like Netscape,without the AOL junk.
    The other biggie is Eudora.
    You can check them out by installing a couple at a time, keeping your current favorite installed. You can use your favorite at home and your "at work" program to email back and forth or even alternately use two programs running simultaneously on your home machine.

    Big Al and a couple other loungers are sure to jump in on this thread........have fun!!!

    Have a Great day!!!
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    Re: Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    AAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Bryan beat me!!!

    Have a Great day!!!
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    Re: Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    You bet <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    Anytime I can put in a plug for Pegasus, I'll jump on it.
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    Re: Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    Sure, you guys are right on! Like the man says, it's like cars and (dare I say it) virus protection software - different strokes for different blokes! I think Bryan and Ken are right that Pegasus, Eudora and Mozilla (or Netscape) rank right up there at the top of the heap and they're all free for the taking.....

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    Re: Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    If you've looked at the other threads involving Pegasus mail, you'll know it's no surprise that I agree with Bryan wholeheartedly. I've been using Pegasus for about 7 years now, and I would not think about switching to another email client. With my own domain, I can create new email addresses for different purposes (for instance, I have one that I use just for eBay), and I can easily create a new identity in Pegasus to go with that address.

    The email filtering is the best I've seen, and gets better with every new version. I know there are quite a few features of Pegasus that I don't even use.

    Like Bryan, I am a Pegasus evangelist, extolling it's virtues to everybody who will listen, and I'm certainly willing to help answer any questions you may have.

    Try it, you'll like it!

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    Re: Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    Thanks! The only question I have right now about Pegasus is, will I be able to import my old messages/folders from OE and ExpressPlus (.eml format)?
    I think I might even have one or two old Compuserve file cabinets hiding somewhere.
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    Re: Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    Not directly.

    You may have to go through Eudora first.

    The only other mailbox "stores" that Pegasus can access are the Eudora flavour of Unix mbx files.

    There are convertors out there that MAY be able to do it for you, but ALL the recommendations I have seen say to Import OE mail into Eudora and then use Pegasus to access the Eudora mailboxes.

    You can have a look at this page in the Pegasus Knowledge base to maybe give you some more direction.
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    Re: Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    The .EML format, when opened in Notepad, looks like raw MIME e-mail. Any program should be able to accept it once the program can be made to understand what it is. Having no experience with doing that, though, I guess I can't be much help.

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    Re: Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    Well, I finally decided to learn something new <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> & installed Pegasus. It will take some getting used to. My initial problems seem to be that:
    1. The inbox (new mail) window won't open maximized (the application will).
    2. When I sort the new messages by threads, there's no indentation to show messages go with each other.
    3. It doesn't seem to have a setting that will download new mail upon starting.

    Any suggestions?

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    Re: Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    Phil,

    Welcome to the dark side <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> I mean welcome to an extremely powerful mail client.

    #1 is a known issue and has been for as long as I can remember. The workaround is to close or minimize all but the window you want maximized. Select Windows|Tile. That will make the window use the largest possible area it can. Now close Pegasus. That will save your window state. (This has never been an issue for me because I don't like my windows full screen)

    #2 is correct. Any e-mail client that does that does it "artificially" There are no standards in place to say that this e-mail is a response to that one... Sure some clients do add a Thread Index or In-Reply-To header, but not all do, so it can't always be threaded correctly. But what you can do is in the mailbox window, CTRL+Left Click the Subject title. That will Sort by subject and "sub-sort" by date and time (with GMT corrections)

    #3 is true too.You can click the Globe icon in the toolbar with the two triangles on it (Send/Receive) or the one with just the Red arrow pointing away from the globe(Receive).

    You are right, it will take some time to get used to. But I think you will be happier in the long run.

    BTW, which view are you using, the classic view (with separate windows for everything) or the new Preview Pane view which is similar to Outlook and Outlook Express? I have stuck with the Classic view. I much prefer it.

    You installed 4.02 with the 4.02a patch correct?
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    Re: Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    Thanks for everything, Bryan.
    <hr>You installed 4.02 with the 4.02a patch correct?<hr>
    The patch? er, ah (stalling for time & waiting for the download to start)...Yes, of course. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    And I don't know which view I'm using. I couldn't find anything under Options to change the view.

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    Re: Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    Phil,

    If you have multiple windows, you are using Classic View. If you have one window that looks like OE, then you are using the New Preview view.

    Switching between the two is not in the options. It is in the button bar of the Folders window or the Preview window.

    The attached screenshot shows both views. The top half is the Classic view and the bottom half is the new Preview mode. The circled buttons will switch between Classic and Preview.
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    Re: Looking for Mr. GoodMail (IE 6)

    Thanks again, Bryan. I tend to be used to the preview mode & now I see how to change back & forth.
    Cheers,

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