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    Graphics and Text Layers (W2K/XP)

    I have just run across a situation I have never seen or heard of or seen.

    I have a document that was created in Word XP that has a FULL page image on it. On top of that image, there is a coloured text box. On top of that is some text.

    It looks fine when displayed and print previewed in W2K. But when it gets printed from W2K, the text doesn't print. Same thing if printed to Acrobat.

    Actually the text, it appears in Acrobat, prints as the back layer.

    But the document prints fine from WXP.

    I have tried sending the image to the back, but it still doesn't print properly.

    Has anyone heard of this before? Any suggestions?

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    Re: Graphics and Text Layers (W2K/XP)

    Could the print options in your W2K be set to not include drawing objects?
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    Re: Graphics and Text Layers (W2K/XP)

    Nope that's not it.

    This images and text box prints fine, just in the wrong z-order.

    From bottom to top,

    In W2K it's Text then Full page image then textbox.

    In WXP it's the full page image then the textbox and then the text.

    I have attached a sample page in case anyone want's to dig into it.

    I'm stumped.
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    Re: Graphics and Text Layers (W2K/XP)

    Strange, even if you change the Wrapping Style on that pink box from In front of text to Behind text, it still ends up in front in Word 2000.

    Suggestion: The pink box is not a textbox, it's just a rectangle. Have the user use a real textbox and put the text in it. This worked for me printing to pdfFactory.

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    Re: Graphics and Text Layers (W2K/XP)

    Jefferson,

    Thanks for that. At least I know I'm not going <img src=/S/crazy.gif border=0 alt=crazy width=15 height=15>!! Well at least not over this anyway <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>


    The problem with changing the pink box is that this is only 1 of 105 pages in the document and one of literally HUNDREDS of rectangles in the document <img src=/S/sad.gif border=0 alt=sad width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Graphics and Text Layers (W2K/XP)

    Hi Bryan:
    I conclude there is some corruption of the document or graphic, though this may be stating the obvious. When I tried to edit the picture, my NT hung. The only way I can print the text is to remove both graphics. Repasting them keeps the same problem. I tried saving as .rtf & the computer hung. I was using Word 97.

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    Re: Graphics and Text Layers (W2K/XP)

    If I re-create the identical thing in Word 2000, it is fine. Maybe dropping the compatibility back to Word 2000 will fix it? Is there a way in XP to do that?

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    Re: Graphics and Text Layers (W2K/XP)

    Phil,

    I'm not sure if it corruption. I tried to edit the image in W2K on WinXP. It took a while to bring up the editing, maybe a minute or so, but it did.

    I also just copied everything and pasted into a new document with no problem.

    But THANK YOU Phil!!! I stumbled on a solution. Copy and paste everything into a new document and the layering is the way it should be now.

    When I get to work tomorrow, I will try it on the whole document and see what I come up with.
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    Re: Graphics and Text Layers (W2K/XP)

    Jefferson,

    I don't have WXP. I will ask the preson that came ot me to check with the person who created the document to check and see if there is a W2K compatability mode in WXP.

    Thanks for your help.
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    Re: Graphics and Text Layers (W2K/XP)

    I tried copying and pasting the WHOLE document, and the layers are still not layering properly.

    I tried sending ALL the pictures to the back, with code, and all the rectagles to Behind the Text, with code, but it still didn't <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> work.

    I'm totally stumped and <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> off now.

    Thanks for everyone's help. But I will STILL entertain any ideas of suggestions, no matter how far out there they are <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Graphics and Text Layers (W2K/XP)

    Hi Bryan,

    One possible solution, if your document has the same artwork throughout, is to move the large graphic into the page header.

    I found that deleting the pink box had no effect on the text printing problem (nor did removing the graphic), but moving the graphic into the header fixes the text printing problem in Word 97. It also means you can delete the graphic from all other pages, thus substantially reducing the size of your document and making it faster to work with. If there's a few such graphics, using section breaks will allow you to put each one in its own section, with similar benefits. The same would be true if you moved the pink rectangle into the header with the graphic - moving it without also moving the graphic causes other problems in Word 97.

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    Re: Graphics and Text Layers (W2K/XP)

    Howdy, I'm new here but you DID say "no matter how far out they are". I'm newly converted to Word2002 over WXP andhave had some interesting problems (and am generally more familiar with Word97 over W95 or WNT but hey)... I successfully previewed and printed your page on both B&W and Colour LaserJets.

    The only Tools/Options/Print tab items of interest I have checked at this time Background Printing and Embed Drawing objects. More interestingly, I DID note a small checkbox at the bottom of the Save tab that MAY interest you:
    "disable features introduced after" and the 2 options in the dropbox are Word97 and Word6.0/95. If you can't save back to W2K and get what you want, mayhap this will help!

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    Re: Graphics and Text Layers (W2K/XP)

    <hr>One possible solution, if your document has the same artwork throughout, is to move the large graphic into the page header.<hr>
    Yep. This is what I eventaully did. There were 6 or 7 different sections altogether. Once I moved the large background image to the header, it printed just fine.

    All I can say is <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0>

    Thanks for everyone's help.
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    Re: Graphics and Text Layers (W2K/XP)

    <hr>I'm newly converted to Word2002 over WXP andhave had some interesting problems (and am generally more familiar with Word97 over W95 or WNT but hey)... I successfully previewed and printed your page on both B&W and Colour LaserJets.<hr>
    Yep. That's the problem. It was created in Word XP(2002) and it worked just fine there. When it was sent to us, it didn't print the text. We only have Word 2000.

    That's whole problem. Good in WXP and not good in W2K.
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