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    Re: Where to Find a Developer? (VS .NET)

    Be wary of choosing a person based on cost. One gets what they pay for in this area.
    The code that Clients send me to fix/rewrite is usually so poorly done, I find it hard to believe that people are charging to write such code.

    Choose someone who can design, as well as program.

    The first thing you need is a written spec. Having such a spec should reduce total programming cost.

    The programmer need not be local. Many projects can be done using email and telephone communication.

    P.S. If you want to be contacted, you should include your email address in your profile for these forums.

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    Re: Where to Find a Developer? (VS .NET)

    I think this depends, in part, on whether you are in a hurry. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    There are a variety of groups, both online and off, in which to find developers who are putting themselves "out there" as service providers. If you study that person's statements, you can get a sense of whether she or he is the type of person you would want working for you. Remember, software development is a relationship: you have a vision that you can articulate part of, and the developer has a vision of what she or he likes to build, and you need to talk, make pictures, meld minds, etc., so that what you buy does what you wanted.

    Ask for references.

    Require complete source code before paying the final installment.

    Sometimes, you choose badly, or the developer chooses badly. There are argument about money. Lawyers get called. But if you find that you and the developer can communicate, you usually can determine in advance whether you can get most of what you want for not much more than you want to pay. And from there, well, the rest is up to you.

    As a footnote, if you don't have a language preference, this thread could be move over to VB/VBA. Many more people here will know VB developers than will know .NET developers.

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    Re: Where to Find a Developer? (VS .NET)

    Many thanks to you two for the tips. They are very helpful. I'll definitely take your advice to heart.

    How does one go about finding those groups of developers who are offering their services? Are there particular forums/sites where I can find them?

    I don't have a language preference per se. The reason I thought .NET might be best (based on my limited, non-developer knowledge) is that I want the program to be portable (e.g., produce a subsequent Web-based version) and scalable. If iinitial versions are successful, I would like to add a lot of features/capability to it in the future, ideally without starting over. I thought .NET might best satisfy those two criteria. Is that correct?

    Sorry for this very newbie question, but...how can I move this thread to the VB/VBA section without violating lounge rule #14 about avoiding cross-posting? Thanks.

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    Re: Where to Find a Developer? (VS .NET)

    I do have the power to move posts, as you can see, but I can't edit your original post. You might want to change the (VS .NET) to (Any).

    I'm not sure from your description exactly what kind of application you're looking for. If you want to make Excel data available on a web site, using old technology, you typically would use an ODBC driver which, if you don't know, is a kind of database interface. Virtually any language can talk to an ODBC driver, but the most common way to do that nowadays is ADO. The version of ADO that predates .NET and the version in .NET are quite different.

    If you look out into the marketplace at the likely pace of adoption of .NET web servers, I think you will conclude that they are not going to sweep the globe anytime soon. As you may know, a large plurality and possibly a majority of web sites are served with Apache, with most of those running on non-Microsoft operating systems. A lot of NT web servers have never upgraded to Windows 2000 and IIS 5.0, Microsoft's latest web server. So... I think you need not think so far ahead in developing your project. Particularly in light of the fact that far fewer people know .NET yet, so you would have far fewer choices.

    It's probably evident to you from using web interfaces that they are clunkier than Windows interfaces. Unless the developer has superimposed an ActiveX control or Java program, you use web forms for input and get web pges for output (or maybe PDF). If this is fine for your needs, you could have the application developed from the outset as a web application using readily available MS technologies such as ASP (Active Server Pages), which allows you to interact with Excel using VBScript. While VBScript is not a real programming language, it's often plenty good enough.

    If that's the direction you'd like to go, I guess I should move this thread over to the Web Development board... <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

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    Where to Find a Developer? (Any)

    I am looking for advice about how to find a developer when faced with budget constraints. I am not a developer but have a design for a product I want developed. I am self-funding this project, so the budget is quite limited. The program needs to interface with Excel, but I want it to be a stand-alone app. I tried hiring a computer science student at a local university, but without good results. Any other ideas?

    My apologies if this should have been posted to a different forum (please tell me which one), or if this topic is inappropriate for the forums (in which case I won't continue the thread).

    Many thanks.

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    Re: Where to Find a Developer? (VS .NET)

    Thanks for all the information. Lots to ponder. Looks like I'll drop the .NET idea.

    My application is financial analysis software that would aid companies in making capital investment decisions. I have some algorithms that I originally developed for my own use and wrote very sloppily in VBA. The algorithms are computationally intensive (sometimes recursive). I pulled the data from Excel, which seemed easiest for me, but the input data do not necessarily have to come from Excel. Lots of financial analysts use Excel, which is why I wanted the app to have good integration with Excel. But I want it to be a stand-alone app that isn't dependent on Excel to work. I want to supply all the core mathematical algorithms that do all the financial calculations but work with a developer to do everything else. Input to the app would be mostly numeric. Output would be mostly numeric, along with some charts.

    I have attached a partial screen shot of part of the Excel interface I developed for my own use. The numbers in blue are user (my) inputs.

    For the Web, at least initially I was thinking of having just a very basic version that would be mainly for promotional/marketing purposes. It would allow, for example, just one real option to be specified. If they liked what they saw, they might want to buy the full version. I think the existing technologies you described would do the trick. I just wanted to make it easy to port versions to different platforms.
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    Re: Where to Find a Developer? (VS .NET)

    He did say he wants a stand-alone app. So, .Net would be an excellent language for the development effort. The IDE is excellent (so the programmer will definitely be happy) and if the main component works with Excel, sticking with a MS solution makes a lot of sense. There's my 2... (cents, that is).
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