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    Modifying Startup Pgms (XP Home)

    I am trying to modify the list of programs that automatically start on boot in XP Home (there are some unnecessary ones that I would like to remove from auto start). I checked the MS knowledgebase articles and they walk you through running MMC then going to "Group Policy" from the list of available stand-alone snap-ins. The problem is that Group Policy is not contained in this list on my computer.

    Can someone tell me how to get Group Policy in this list so I can follow the Knowledgebase article or tell me another way to modify the list of programs that load on startup (only one of these programs is in my startup folder. Most appear to be started via the registry. The article speask of these as legacy programs but this is a new computer that came with XP installed and all new software.

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    Re: Modifying Startup Pgms (XP Home)

    Go to Start, Run and type MSCONFIG. When it runs you can un-check any programs you don't want to run at startup.

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    Re: Modifying Startup Pgms (XP Home)

    Jim--
    MSCONFIG is an invaluable "utility", but Group Policy Editor has a number of options. All are pretty well explained right there by clicking properties and it is well explained at Help and Support. You may be more familiar than I am with Help and Support, but compared to other flavors of Windows OS, Microsoft has done a pretty good job of beefing it up and has put a wealth of information and help beyond the "help" on the toolbar for say OLE, Outlook on a lot of the utilities and systems within the OS at general Help and Support. Check it out using search to put in Group Policy.

    To get to Group Policy: Type in the run box: gpedit.msc(for Group Policy Editor Micosoft Console--the Management Console).
    I did a discussion of it Name at the top of the Start Menu Using gpedit.msc on this thread--you can get to common components shared by Group Policy Manager and Administrative Tools>Computer Management by going to the Start Menu if you aren't using Classic Windows View, and the Control Panel if you are. I may have pinned mine from Control Panel . You can also reach Computer Management by putting compmgmt.msc in the run box.
    Look at both of these, because they have this advantage. You can easily make tweaks to XP through Group Policy Editor that are forgivng. You don't like 'em--you undo 'em. The interface explains everything well. Group Policy Editor can be for the guy on his desktop a lot like Active Directory's structure and tools are for a network administrator--but easier to use.

    You can also use the Local Security Policy Editor in the administrative tools folder to control security policy.
    I like these "tools," because they are easy to use, quick, and you can change a number of things from start up without having to hack the Registry.
    Also try MMC in the Run box or Command Line. File>Add/Remove Snap-In Dialogue Box>Click Add>Select Group Policy from the snap-in list>click Add. In the Select Group Policy Object dialogue box, click Finish with Local Computers specified in the Group Policy Object Field.

    Also Jim see this site: Black Viper's Home and Professional Service Configurations. Note that he suggests stopping some programs from starting not with the msconfig utility, but with going to the command line, and typing "services.msc" in the command line. Scroll all the way down the page.

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    Re: Modifying Startup Pgms (XP Home)

    My problem is that I do not appear to have Group Policy Editor as I indicated in my earlier post. When I go to the snap-in list, it it not there to choose. If I type gpedit.msc into the Run line, no program is found. I searched for gpedit.* and no files were found. Should GPE be installed as a standard feature of XP Home? Is there a way to add GPE if it is not there?

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    Re: Modifying Startup Pgms (XP Home)

    Group Policy Editor is not available in the Home edition of XP. It also is not an installable option from your CD. You'll need to use MSCONFIG which is included, or download another utility to manange it for you.
    -Mark

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    Re: Modifying Startup Pgms (XP Home)

    Mark answered my question. I had set up the KB's on it for you, but threw them away when I saw Mark's post. But between MSCONFIG and some of Black Viper's suggestions at the link I gave you above referencing services.msc, you can probably get done what you need. If you are having a problem getting something specific done, post it and you can probably get help to do it.

    Good luck,

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    Re: Modifying Startup Pgms (XP Home)

    I was able to stop the loading of unnecessary programs with MSCONFIG. However, now whenever I re-boot, the boot pasues at the screen showing "start Winows normally" or the various other options for starting. On the first boot after using MSCONFIG, I received a message to the effect that Windows startup was modified... I selected to not be informed of these again. But I still get the pause on boot. If I do nothing, the boot continues in a few seconds. Is this normal in XP (I don't receive these messages in W98 when I make changes to the startup.

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    Re: Modifying Startup Pgms (XP Home)

    I selected to not be informed of these again. But I still get the pause on boot. If I do nothing, the boot continues in a few seconds. Is this normal in XP (I don't receive these messages in W98 when I make changes to the startup. I
    H Lewton

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    Re: Modifying Startup Pgms (XP Home)

    The following:

    "Also Jim see this site: Black Viper's Home and Professional Service Configurations. Note that he suggests stopping some programs from starting not with the msconfig utility, but with going to the command line, and typing "services.msc" in the command line. Scroll all the way down the page"

    from defrag was just the information that I needed. I am attempting to put XPH on a diet, but I didn't know what could and could not be reduced. Thanks.

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    Re: Modifying Startup Pgms (XP Home)

    Just don't add a "Doc" on the end of your name, and you and I won't come to blows! <img src=/S/doctor.gif border=0 alt=doctor width=25 height=33>

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