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    Form used for email (MSO 2000)

    I use Outlook (2000) for all my email... but I have, on occasion, used Outlook Express, which raises two questions for me:

    1) Why, when you sign up for various (any) email lists, and are choosing the format for your mail, and choose (HTML) as the preferred format, if you select "Outlook" as your client, then mail comes as text (rich-format?), but if you select Outlook Express, it comes as HTML? I thought Outlook was in fact using Outlook Express as the *client* -- because if you install Outlook, you have to also have Outlook Express installed.

    2) In Outlook Express, using the installation defaults, when I forward mail there is a vertical graphic line that appears down the left-hand side of the page, marking the forwarded text. How can/do I duplicate this in Outlook? It doesn't appear possible!

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    Re: Form used for email (MSO 2000)

    1) Maybe to be backwards compatible with Outlook 97??

    2) You're not digging deep enough. <img src=/S/wink.gif border=0 alt=wink width=15 height=15> Under Tools|Options, click the E-mail Options... button and change your Reply and Forward preferences (see picture). For some reason, my replies to RTF-format messages are always prefixed even though I haven't selected that option. So, although there is a setting, I don't guarantee that it will be implemented sensibly. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Form used for email (MSO 2000)

    jscher2000:

    No, I've been down that menu... but you cannot, at least not that I've found use a vertical '|' as a prefix that joins into a straight graphic line... it'a a broken ASCII line instead...

    Have you tried it? Have you seen the "default" line I speak of? Want me to "send" you one to sho? 'Cause it's seemingly part of the style sheet or form, not a "typed in" character...

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    Re: Form used for email (MSO 2000)

    Well, I've now played with this a bit, and it appears to depends on the format:

    <UL><LI>In plain text, you cannot create an unbroken line. Even if you were to somehow magically specify a line-drawing font, the appearance of the line on the receiving end is dictated by the font preferences of the recipient.

    <LI>In HTML format, it doesn't matter what character you specify, Outlook (2000) does use the solid line. The source code for the quoted portion of the message starts off with:

    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

    <LI>In RTF format, there is no prefix character at all! This is really buggy, I get it when I don't ask for it, and I don't get it when I do. I've only updated through SR-1; maybe this was fixed in a later SP or SR.[/list]In any event, I think the answer on OE is that it default to HTML and when in HTML format, OL behaves the same way.

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    Re: Form used for email (MSO 2000)

    Jefferson:

    Good Grief, tou're right! I tried the formats (again) and, in HTML, the line appears if in 'Tools/Options/Email Format' I select HTML, and then tell Outlook I want to include, indent and precede each line in a forward and/or reply, but put 'NO' character in the "precede each line with..." selection, it puts the line!

    God, that's strange....

    Now I've just got to decide if I want to send all HTML email... don't a lot of mail clients have a problem with it?

    Also, I don't recall seeing any response to why i-net sites send 'Outlook client' email as text, but 'Outlook Express' clienst as (I now know) HTML?

    Thanks for the assist...

    Chuck Billow
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