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    Old CD-ROM problem

    I'm trying to resurrect an old Win98 box for my grandson so I formatted the hard drive with startup floppy in hand BUT it turns out that the startup disc doesn't have a driver for the CD drive since it is connected directly to the sound card. Soundblaster 16. Creative Labs shows a driver but when I get to the download page I get a totally blank page. No driver download. Did a Google search but couldn't score. Any ideas, please.

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    Re: Old CD-ROM problem

    There should be a thin, round, 2 or 3 conductor cable between the CD-ROM drive and the sound card. This is simply the 'sound connection' from the drive to the sound card, allowing the CDs to produce sound through the sound card. The CD-ROM drive must also have a data cable connecting it to one of the IDE channels on your motherboard. This is how the drive and the computer exchange data. The data cable should be a flat, 40 conductor ribbon cable plugged into the back of the drive and the IDE port on your motherboard.

    You shouldn't need a driver for the CD-ROM drive. These are typically plug-and-play devices that Win98 already has generic drivers for. Assuming your machine is running OK with the new Win98 installation, check to be sure you have both sound and data cables connected to your CD-ROM drive and that those cables are connected to both the sound card and motherboard, respectively. I suspect that, for some reason, all you have connected to your CD-ROM drive is the sound cable. Look around for a nearby IDE connector that may have fallen off of your drive. Poke around on the Internet for instructions on how to install a CD-ROM drive...it'll be helpful.

    Good luck!

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    Re: Old CD-ROM problem

    Thanks, but I checked the cabling and they are both OK. If Win98 were loaded then the CD drive would be plug and play but my C drive is formatted so I need an operating system. The CD drive is Matsu######a-Kotobuki model CR-563-B. I checked Google for drivers for it and/or the Soundblaster card. What is the last OS that was offered on floppies? <img src=/S/angel.gif border=0 alt=angel width=15 height=21> Then I could do some up grading.

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    Re: Old CD-ROM problem

    If you went through Windows to create the emergency startup disk (ESD), there should be CD-ROM support when you boot. From memory, when you boot to a Windows 98 ESD, you get three options: 1) Boot without CD support, 2) Boot with CD support, 3) View the help file.

    If you boot to disk and don't get these, perhaps I can email you the zipped contents of my Windows 98 ESD.

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    Re: Old CD-ROM problem

    I'd echo the comment that the Win98 startup disk should offer CD-Rom support. You can create one of these disks off any functioning Win98 PC, and it should work as long as the CD is connected properly. The connection to the sound card does not mean the CD-Rom is controlled through the sound card. You should be able to remove the sound card entirely, and still have a functioning CD-Rom. Have you checked all connections to be sure everything is pushed in tight on the CD-Rom AND on the motherboard?
    One problem I ran into with a PC at work was that the CD-Rom was not being recognized in the setup screens (BIOS). Did this PC have the CD-Rom working before you reformatted, or did you add the CD-Rom as part of the reworking you are doing? If the latter, you might have to upgrade the BIOS.

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    Re: Old CD-ROM problem

    The Windows 98 Startup Disk includes a set of generic
    CD-ROM drivers. These drivers work with most IDE ATAPI
    and SCSI CD-ROM models.

    If your particular CD-ROM drive does not work with
    these drivers, you will need to use the drivers that
    came with your CD-ROM drive.

    Following are some known issues about the CD-ROM drivers:

    1. CD-ROM drives connected to sound cards may not work
    properly.

    2. Early proprietary CD-ROM drives (for example, Mitsumi,
    Panasonic, Sony) may not work with these drivers. Some
    older IDE controllers may fail as well.
    Thanks for all the replies but the above was pasted from the readme.txt on the Win98 startup disc. IF I did find a driver would I copy it to the startup floppy? Providing there is ample space. Most drivers are only a few kb's. I'm lost and probably should just give up. Thanks again. Ecnav

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    Re: Old CD-ROM problem

    Do you have access to another CD ROM Drive - swap it out with the old one so that you can install WIN 98 - then put the old one back in.

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    Re: Old CD-ROM problem

    You could install the HD from the computer you are refurbishing into another computer, with a working CD Drive, as a salve or secondary hard drive and then install Win98 on the slave drive, remove it and reset it to a primary drive and install it in the refurb job and be good to go.
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