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    Projector Recommendations

    My CEO is wanting to do his monthly Bored Meetings using Power Point as opposed to the overhead transparents he now uses.
    What I would like is some recommendations for a projector/laptop setup to do this with.
    Since I just finished my first PP training seminar, I'm really at the 'know-nothing' position.
    ANY help is appreciated.

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    Re: Projector Recommendations

    Hi Jimmy,

    There are MANY good projectors on the market. The biggest factor for most buyers is the price. Entry level proejctors start around $2000 US. They go up to over $10,000...
    The size of your room (i.e. the distance between the projector and screen) and the size of the screen will be other factors to consider. Finally, you'll want to think about Resolution. Many projectors today come with a minimum of 1024x768 resolution. Your needs may differ depending on your computer hardware...

    As for what kind of computer to use - you do not necessarily need a laptop. Of course, many people do use laptops for this because of their portability. However, nearly ALL computers are projector compatible (provided they have a standard VGA output).

    For more specific details you can do some web searching on any search site... I've found some good tips at http://www.projectorcentral.com/

    Hope this helps...

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    Re: Projector Recommendations

    You'll also want to consider the Lumens, or amount of light used to project the image. Most of the lowerend models will work fine if you're working in an extremely dark environment, but you'll want something better if you plan on having any light in the enviroment at all.

    If cost is a consideration, you might consider calling a rental place to see if they're willing to part with an older model. You may get a good price on a fairly used one this way. On the other hand, it may be cheaper to regularly rent a projector for your meetings as they occur, as opposed to dropping the 2500-4000 you'll spend on a moderately decent one. [img]/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]

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    Re: Projector Recommendations

    What about using a TV Out video card, and sending the presentation to a large screen (27 ") television? A number of companies already have TV's for video training, simply adding a TV Out card to an existing PC (or laptop) may work just as well as a projection unit and screen....
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    Re: Projector Recommendations

    We use an InFocus projector that's about 2 years old now. We've used it in a small conference room and in a fairly small cafeteria and it works very well. We had it in a rolling case with a PC but we replaced that with a rolling cart and the PC and projector are on that. We even attach to our network and do the presentations from there.

    Good luck to you!

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    Re: Projector Recommendations

    Jimmy,

    I work for a training department and we have used Data projectors for about 5 years now.

    We have tried Sony, NEC and 3M.

    Right now, we use 3Ms (I forget the model. I'd go check, but we have a class going on right now). We have one mounted on the ceiling of our main technical training classroom and have had excelent results with it.

    It accepts a 1024X768 image 32 bit colour depths with NO problems.

    It has a Mac input, which we have never used, so no comment there

    It has a composite video (regular video out from a VCR). It is adequate for us (and we have faily high standards, since I work for a Canadian TV network and we train the television technicians <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>)

    It also has, IIRC, an S-Video input, which we have never used.

    The projector is mounted about 130-140" from the screen and gives us an image about 6'-7' X 6'-7' I forget the actual screen size.

    This may not matter to you, but to us it did, It handles multiple aspect ratios (4x3 - Standard monitor/TV set / 16x9 - Widescreen, letterbox / 4x3 inside a 16x9 display)

    So now that I have said all that, what's important?
    <UL><LI>The image size you need
    <LI>The distance the projector will be away from the screen
    <LI>The image size you will be feeding the projector (VGA, SVGA, XGA...)
    <LI>The colour depth it will handle
    <LI>The Lumens output of the projector (the brightness of the projections. IIRC you want 700 or better if it will be used in a well lit room to avoid the image being wased out)
    <LI>Bulb life and replacement cost[/list]That should get you started.
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    Re: Projector Recommendations

    Regarding bulbs - I remember older projectors used bulbs similar to those used in standard Overhead transparency projectors. I think they used to cost about $40 US and last about 50-70 hours.

    I was surprised to learn that newer projectors have a totally different technology. The bulbs (or Lamp) typically last 1500-2000 hours, cost significantly more to replace (around $500 US, I think), and can only be replaced by the manufacturer or an authorized service center.

    I haven't had the opportunity to a newer projector recently, but I'm sure the newer lamp design is more efficient and cost-effective. You can imagine the shock when I first saw the replacement cost of a new lamp when I assumed it only lasted 50-70 hours like the old ones... <img src=/S/doh.gif border=0 alt=doh width=15 height=15>

    Interesting...

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    Re: Projector Recommendations

    <hr>I was surprised to learn that newer projectors have a totally different technology. The bulbs (or Lamp) typically last 1500-2000 hours, cost significantly more to replace (around $500 US, I think), and can only be replaced by the manufacturer or an authorized service center.<hr>
    I think this depends on the projector.

    The 3M projector we have (MP 7640 - I snuck into the classroom at lunch and looked <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>) has an end-user replaceable bulb. I just did a quick google search on the part number and it costs $375 USD. I wish I could find the lifespan of the bulb but I can't <img src=/S/disappointed.gif border=0 alt=disappointed width=15 height=15> , but it's well above 500 hours.

    That is one of the reasons we got rid of our NEC projectors. We were only getting 50 - 75 hours out of the bulbs that were supposed to last 500 + hours. We even sent the projectors (yes multiple projectors) back to NEC fearing we got a bad run of them, but still no luck.

    We have have this 3M projector for 2 years? now, and we are still on the original bulb.
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    Re: Projector Recommendations

    Let me say a big thanks for the response to my inquiry. <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> You've all given me some roads to travel in this quest. <img src=/S/joy.gif border=0 alt=joy width=23 height=23>
    At the present time they meet in a room that isn't that big but has many windows with lots of light sooooo I guess my first consideration will be these lumen thingys.
    I think maybe we can get around that distance from the projector problem so distance won't be a problem.
    Price is a big factor, of course, so that may reslove a lot of decisions. Then I'll get to give him the 'life to replacement bulb price' ratio and watch him melt. LOL
    Many thanks again!!

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    Re: Projector Recommendations

    <hr>At the present time they meet in a room that isn't that big<hr>
    Don't dismiss this as not important. Each projector has different specs for distance to screen vs size of image. If you get them outside of their range, the image will be too small or too big.

    You need to make sure that the projector will display the size of image when placed where it will be when used. If it is too close to the screen, the image will be tiny, no matter how much you zoom the lens. If it is too far, then the image will be too big, no matter how far you zoom the the lens.

    The projector to screen distance is called the throw distance (I've been trying to remember what it's called all day) is critically important. As much so as the lumens of the bulb.
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    Re: Projector Recommendations

    3M - MP 7640

    I went looking for this one, Bryan, on the link that Mark furnished, here's what they say,
    Status: Out of Production
    First Ship: Aug 2000
    Last Ship: Feb 2002

    and as for your bulb,
    Lamp: Type:
    130WUHB
    Life: 2000 hours

    Just my kind of luck!

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    Re: Projector Recommendations

    I'm sorry to hear that, however and updated version of this projector is available in Canada.

    The MP7640i is available on 3M's Canadian web site

    No idea how much it is, but it's listed.
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    Re: Projector Recommendations

    From personal experience of just replacing the one in our church in Little Rock, be very sure about the throw distance/image size. It's no fun having to move the mount 18" when it's on a sloping ceiling, 18' off the floor because the image wouldn't quite fill the screen. We got a Sharp XG-C50X 3000 lumen thingies and lots of versatility on connections. Not cheap, but its bright even with lots of house lights. If you would be in LR anytime, let me know and I'll take you over for a demo.

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    Re: Projector Recommendations

    Thanks gman, if I ever get the time to get out of paragould and get over that way, I'll look ya up. [img]/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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