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    Re: Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP1)

    Can I get you to resize that image? <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    From what I gather, the ONLY time that the Favorites folder opens slowly is when you view it as an "Explorer pane". In every other instance, the Favorites open quickly. That includes:

    1) the Favorites "drop-down" list on the IE menu bar.
    2) the Favorites 'fly-out" list from the Start menu.
    3) navigating to the Favorites folder via Windows Explorer.

    What is the difference between viewing the Favorites in the Explorer pane? I am not sure yet, but I think that in the Explorer pane all of the links are referenced to your TIF. Therefore, PERHAPS the delay is due to IE spinning through your TIF trying to locate cached copies of your Favorites.

    1) How large is your TIF?
    2) When did you last clean it out?
    3) Have you cleaned out the index.dat in the TIF as well?

    Just thoughts... don't know if it is the answer.

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    Re: Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP1)

    R2 thanks for trying to help--

    "Resize the image"--I can try but don't know how. Took me a day of playing with the dialogue box to finally get an image up on the lounge. I'm using Paint and learning when I get time later today to use Hard Copy (lite) better. I have done some HC option selections and it still wants to print and use cartridge powder every time I Alt+Print screen although I thought I took this option out. Since I used Paint, wouldn't it be impossible for me to "resize the image," since it's not stored on the clipboard--the image is on my hard drive of course,but I'm not sure how to resize it. Do you mean just make a new one--start over? Do I go back to the Paint clipboard some way--can you do this after it's closed. In other words, how do I "resize that image."


    When I post an image to the lounge I want to do it as well as I can for the Lounge. I have sent PM's to Leif, Jefferson, and Dave A. asking how since it isn't in Lounge HELP anywhere I can find. I appreciate the tips Leif put in How to Post an Image but they were basically to use the Microsoft Office image tool--Photo Editor-- or Hard Copy. Hard Copy seems pretty good. I'm also going to redownload the trial for Gadwin Print Screen since a bunch of people who know graphic files well at Tech TV are so high on that.

    1) the Favorites "drop down list on the IE toolbar" --the one I click to "bookmark" a favorite or if bookmarking is more properly a Netscape term, to "save" a favorite--sometimes takes 2-3 clicks and 2-3 seconds but generally comes up pretty quickly.

    2) The "Fly out" from the Start Menu which has the Star logo, and shows the entire list comes out immediately--probably helped by a Tweak UI option to make it come out faster or perhaps a tweak in the Appearances dialogue box I did--comes out fast.

    3) navigating to the Favorites folder via Windows Explorer--haven't done that much but have tremendous respect for things that can be done in the Explorer interface--I go there when I'm trying to delete a troublesome file that won't delete from somewhere else--desktop, ect. and if I can't get it done that way I go to Kelly Theriot's or some other XP site--I can't articulate well the connections between WE or My Computer to the registry/root and the Control Panel's --wish I could--but what I want you to tell me is what you do with the Favorites folder in Windows Explorer? This is something I should know but don't.

    4) Favorites in between Search and Media iconettes on that second row of the IE toolbar comes out slowly and when its out causes surfing problems. I don't know why--it's not a progressive problem or a deterioration over time--it always has with this clean install of XP I've had for several months--I have also run SFC twice which seemed to fix MS Paint which wasn't Edit>Pasting, and now it is just fine--but it didn't impact this problem.

    Your TIF reference is interesting--I'm sure you mean temporary internet files rather than the image file format. I clean my TIF files every few hours routinely -- if I'm on the PC a lot, then it's a reflex. I haven't gone after index.dat--don't know a lot about the .dat files--did look them up in FilExt.

    I sure appreciate your help on the Favorites and on my current mini-obsession--posting and mastering screen shots and being able to email image files in as user and Lounge friendly a way as possible and being able to deal with image files people send me that are huge and who is responsible for sizing them correctly and has the most functionality to do it--the sender or the recipient--not a lounge matter but somewhat related. Hopefully as I learn to use Hard Copy, Gadwin Print Screen, and the Office tool Photo Editor that Leif recommends-- that Redmond goofily makes you go back to the CD to load instead of just letting it install--convenience for consumers who aren't enterprise CEO's still eludes the developers who ski Blackcomb and drink at Longhorn.

    Please post back and tell me what you do with Favorites in WE--what you use for screen shots, and how I can "resize that image," and I will be glad to.

    Thanks,

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    Re: Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP1)

    Sorry, I didn't mean to make a big deal about the image! I highly recommend Irfanview for quick and dirty image manipulation. Now to read the rest of your post... <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP1)

    And just to show you how easy it is with irfanview:
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    Re: Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP1)

    Irfanview also has many add-ons and extensions. How about a right-click context add-on that quickly converts image formats? Nice...

    OK, so I like Irfanview. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP1)

    defrag, Just to support what R2 is saying about Irfanview. Use it a lot at home. It is fast and easy to use BTW, it is free for personal use.

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    Re: Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP1)

    Don't be sorry R2--

    -The clumsy screenshots are simply a function of not knowing what I'm doing with Screen Grabbers, graphics file formats, size, quality --what format is appropriate for which situation and number of colors; how to upload them to the lounge in the most lounge-friendly way--I am having a fit with getting BMPs to upload--everything I have gotten to do it is a jpeg --and particularly frustrating is that in MS Paint--I'll do a screen shot like the one above or the one I did on the XP thread that has a hunk of desktop, and in Paint I drag it and center it and get it where I want it, and then after I save it it shows up on the hard drive with junk outside the view (like the chunk of desktop), and I am Alt+Printscreening to get the last window and sizing the window to cover the desktop before I put it on the clip board.

    I have Gadwin, Howie's Quick Screen Capture, Screen Shots and More, Hard Copy lite for trial, Screen Grab as free or trial-ware so I am gong to tinker with them, and I remember now some endorsements for Infranview, and I'll be sure to try that--and I have some articles on the formats.

    I am having trouble using the dialogue box which is probably simple for most. I get hung up on whether to select from the menu or click on the image in My Pictures, My Recent Documents, or My Documents.

    I had been wanting to put up decent screen shots for months, but I could not Edit>Paste so I gave up on MS Paint, and then when Jefferson gave me a few steps I went back and Paint worked. I really wonder if running SFC fixed it because at least Edit>Paste definitely wasn't working. There is nothing like a screen shot or a picture to teach or learn. One possibly simplistic question I have is that if screen real -estate wize something is large, is that a component that determines the size of the file--as well as what type image file it is? Is the incentive for smaller files on the lounge to conserve server space? And was R2 wanting me to get the file smaller--believe me I tried early this morning to edit it down for a good while just because it was awkward looking or to conserve server space? I would do it if only I knew how.

    I just got some .pngs of "Longhorn" and they are pretty good and around 18KB. I got them my favorite, intelligent discriminating way to download by typing in the wrong url for some site I was trying to get to and letting the download run.

    I will hit Infranview--knowing what people with a lot more experience than I have use who could have their choice of a lot of programs they know about is always helpful.

    Thanks R2/Joe,

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    Re: Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP1)

    I have been too busy today to spend enough time looking at the Favorites issue -- I meant to take a peak at it.

    What I want to do -- and you can do if you are brave enough -- is to simply COPY your Favorites folder to another folder. Then, delete all of the contents of the folder EXCEPT for the desktop.ini file. Now see if the empty file is slow to open. If it is not, then SOMETHING in the folder is causing the problem. You could then slowly add back chunks of the Favorite links until you pin down what is causing the problem.

    Just an idea...

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    Re: Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP1)

    R2:
    Hey, not fair. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> How did you get that context menu for Irfanview? I didn't see that option anywhere. <img src=/S/sad.gif border=0 alt=sad width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP

    Hi R2

    Here's my File dropdown next to yours. What IrfanView version are you using? Mine's 3.75.
    The Options you show are available in 3.75, but elsewhere in the menus.

    Have a Great day!!!
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    Re: Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP1)

    R2 and Phil==

    Thanks--can give it a try. I can always back up my favorites to a floppy or burn them.
    What do you think of Favorites Home Page?
    It comes up immediately and displays my Favorites as a web page and as hyperlinks with more functionality than Redmond's Favorties have or will have and was free.

    Can you tell me about this file index.dat--I remember in a long thread we had on among other things fixing IE that Phil brought that file up in another context, and I googled and searched in other ways for it and all I could come up with .bat files having to do with Norton Antivirus repairs--what's the significance of index.dat towards Internet Explorer or Windows XP? I have seen Phil talk about it and now here it is again--I need to know about this file and can't find much to read about it.

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    Re: Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP

    As we know, part of the appeal of Irfanview is that there are multiple add-ins and 'do-dads' -- that is just one that I think all users should get! BAxBEx created a right-click Shell Extension ContextMenuHandler that links to the IrfanView file conversion options. It is pretty slick, and more importantly... free.

    Look at the bottom of this page. If you look at my Context Menu carefully you will note that my Win98 box has an OpenWith "fly out" like Win2K-XP. That is from BAxBEx's "Open Expert" just above the Shell Extension for IrfanView. It is also free...

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    Re: Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP1)

    I am grasping for straws as to why the Favorites is loaded in the Explorer pane so slowly. You say that you have the TIF fairly clean, so that is not likely, EXCEPT....

    If the index.dat file does not correctly "index" your TIF "data", then perhaps you are confusing IE -- and that COULD (in theory) explain the delay.

    Try to see if you can open the index.dat file under ...TIFContent.IE6 using WordPad. Oh, you will likely not be able to open it directly from that position -- WordPad will complain that the file is in use. Instead, COPY the file to your Desktop and open it there. Spin through the file and see if the entries in the file do not excessively exceed the actual data in your TIF.

    If the index.dat file incorrectly indexes the folder it is in, IE doesn't really like this.

    Oh, I have Favorites Home Page as well -- and I like it a lot. Too bad my Favorites are in such a state of disarray that even this cannot help me!! <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> My Favorites is kind of like my garage -- both are badly in need of cleaning!

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    Re: Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP1)

    Hi Defrag:
    You can delete the index.dat file in DOS. It will be rebuilt when Windows reboots. Index.dat can become corrupt or bloated. I've been using a batch file that Fred Langa has here This batch file empties that TIF, deletes index.dat, shelliconcache, & I think some other things in DOS. Upon rebooting, the files are rebuilt.
    Cheers,

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    Favorites open slowly from one location (IE6SP1)

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold">Lief's Graphic resized and replaced by defrag using Paint after Leif's, Jeff's, R2's, Lonnie's ,Ken's, Phil's, Big Al's, Joe P., Bruce's, Dave A's et. al. patient teaching</span hi>

    My favorites open from four places. One is from Favorites Home Page .The bookmarking favorites location above opens at normal speed; the starred favorites that displays the whole list opens from my Start Menu where I checkmarked to keep it Customize Start Menu>Advanced normally. But the star on the toolbar next to Media takes a while and it slows down or freezes browsing. Don't know why. It h appened before Fav Home Page was made and that has no impact on it. There h as been no deterioration. Leif asked me to start another thread from a previous one, and I am answering his questions there.

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