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    Security (XP Home)

    What is the level of security, compared to Norton Utility and Cable/DSL Router, provided by the built-in firewall of XP?

    My friend asked me if he could just use the built-in XP firewall without using the Norton Utility. His set up is:

    LAN: One XP desk top with one XP notebook.
    Internet Connection: Dial Up
    Cable/DSL Router: Since he is not using Cable/DSL, the function of router is like a hub.

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    Re: Security (XP Home)

    Dennis,

    My own thoughts are that the XP firewall is a very basic one at best. You would be much better off with something like Zone Alarm, which is free for home users and has an easy to use interface while providing good protection. <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15>

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    Re: Security (XP Home)

    On my Linksys router at home I don't even change its default settings.

    I have the same Linksys router, if I remember correctly from another post, but I use ZoneAlarm Pro with it. I certainly agree that I do not want to run with out a firewall active but I have tested access to my computer using GRC's (Gibson Research Center) checks and came up with "Stealth" with or without ZAP active. Just an observation.
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    Re: Security (XP Home)

    Hi, im asking you this, cos you seem to have helped me most in the past!!!
    Im moving to bradband on Sunday (from dial-up) . The security i use at the moment is AVG (free edition) and zonealarm (free edition) - i find both these easy to use, - as im a novice - and reliable. Do you think they would still be ok on broadband?
    Ive tried Norton and i HATE it. Kept blocking myself out of everywhere! DOHH!!
    Soooo, do you think zonealarm and AVG is enough protection with broadband?? Thanks - any advice welcome from anyone.
    Dianelane.

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    Re: Security (XP Home)

    While you're waiting for Mark to reply, I think you'll find that everyone here in The Lounge would say you're RIGHT ON target! Almost every post'er here is using Zone Alarm and a vast number of US are connected via DSL or CABLE. As far as virus is concerned (takes deep breath) Avg, Norton, McAfee, PC-Cillin or whatever YOU feel most comfortable with - just so you use SOMETHING. I think you doing the right things, and good luck with YOUR broadband. Hope you like it. I sure do.

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    Re: Security (XP Home)

    I agree with BigAl, in general.
    You are taking the correct steps. The different products work differently. When it comes to computers, it is just like the old disgreement, Ford or Chevy. Well, it gets to heart of things, with a car what did you own first and with computers is what you ran first with success.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Security (XP Home)

    Dave and Al have said it well - if it works for you, run with it! ZoneAlarm isn't my first choice but it is a great product. AVG... you can't beat the price, but for AV solutions I stick with Norton, because I am a fan of SystemWorks and Norton AV is included.

    Both of your choices are fine on broadband. The only firewall that I've ever had trouble with on a high speed connection is Agnitum Outpost, but that's been some time and I would hope that it's been fixed since. Stick with what works for you!
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    Re: Security (XP Home)

    Thankyou (heaves sigh of releif!!) at least im doing something right.
    I can go ahead now with no worries....
    Thanks again, Diane.

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    Re: Security (XP Home)

    Thanks, youve eased my mind - a lot!!
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    Thankyou, youve eased my mind - a lot.
    (hope i havent missed anyone out in the "thankyou's"!!)
    Diane.

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    Re: Security (XP Home)

    I'm with Bob on this one. The router's firewall is a nice thing to have, but I wouldn't rely on it solely. On my Linksys router at home I don't even change its default settings. The XP firewall is a stopgap measure, and it's difficult to impossible to configure - and can even cause problems at times. Since there are many firewalls that are free for personal use, I'd disable it and download a free one pronto.

    Unlike Bob in this case, I don't care for ZoneAlarm. I've had too many problems with it and the user interface is too busy for my liking. However, it is one of the more respected names around and it's also fairly simple to use. My personal preference for firewall protection at home is Sygate Personal Firewall which I sprang for the Pro edition of. The interface isn't as pretty as ZoneAlarm's, but it's effective and unobtrusive - and rock solid. Plus, it offers a good mixture of stealth and intrustion detection options. Outpost has been mentioned in these parts before, but after working with it for a while, I encountered a serious bug with high speed connections (which may since have been fixed) where it would peg the CPU usage, and you had to stop and restart the firewall service. That's no fun, and I can't recommend it as a result.

    Do a little research on this in advance, but don't wait too long - a computer without a high speed connection and no firewall is like a door in a hallway that isn't locked....all the cretins on the net need to do is walk down that hallway and jiggle doorknobs until they find one that turns. With a decent software firewall, they won't even see the door.

    Some review material courtesy Scot Finnie:
    <UL><LI>Windows XP's built-in firewall
    <LI>Sygate Personal Firewall Pro
    <LI>Other firewall reviews by Scot (and a few other things too)[/list]Good luck!
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    Re: Security (XP Home)

    Iv'e got the perfect Fire Wall. I use a separate Computer for the internet and downloading . All my Important things such as my business and Quickens are on a machine thats not hooked to the internet or networked. If a hacker gets to that computer < He's in my house, and he's not gonna be hacking any more Computers if he's in my house. Mr. Colt will see to that. <img src=/S/aflame.gif border=0 alt=aflame width=16 height=16>

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    Re: Security (XP Home)

    I live in Canada and Mr Colt is not popular nor is he advocated.

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    Re: Security (XP Home)

    Sorry to hear that. The right to bare arms is protected by the Bill Of Rights. To protect our land & families. And I was just joking. I would never , never , use a weapon unless that person is armed and dangerous which I don't think a computer hacker <img src=/S/compute.gif border=0 alt=compute width=40 height=20> would be. But I would kick the crap out of anybody that broke into my house. <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15>

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