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    Printer recommendations

    Our offices have been using HP 970 and 990 inkjet printers for about two years. We're very happy with these machines--we especially like the automatic duplex printing, and the print quality and speed are super. However, we've really overworked some of these printers. We have one that has to churn out a few hundred pages a day, and it's wearing out fast.

    I think these printers are not quite robust enough to handle the volume of printing we do. I'd like some recommendations for replacements. We're looking for printers that can handle the volume, but we also can't pay "big money" for an industrial strength machine. Besides, we need to buy two or three of these things. By the way, we don't owe any particular allegiance to HP, but the boss thinks it would be nice to get new printers that use the same ink cartridges as the old ones. Thanks!

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    Re: Printer recommendations

    The HP 900 series printers are good machines, but they aren't exactly heavy duty commercial types either. If you got 2 years of hundreds of copies a day out of them, you are doing fine. You will either have to upgrade to another series meant for that type of workload or just replace as needed of the same type.

    Also, even if you stay with the HP line it doesn't mean that the cartridges will be the same or interchangeable. Most times they are different. (so that you buy more ink cartridges???) That's where they make their real money, not on the machines themselves. <img src=/S/bummer.gif border=0 alt=bummer width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Printer recommendations

    You need to make a business analysis of the problem. With your current 900 series inkjets, calculate how many pages you get per inkjet cartridge, and how many pages worth you get in the life cycle. Only then will you be able to say with any surety, "we do not need industrial strength printers." Don't be short-sighted on this.

    As a general comment, get away from inkjets for everything except the occasional photo print job. Lasers are far more cost-effective in the long run. HP has great models in the 4000 range if you're looking to stick with HP (my recommendation to my clients for printers).

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    Re: Printer recommendations

    I work at a hospital that uses old hp4+ laser printers (they were new). They are solid as a rock. We have been able to pick up refurbished ones for around $350. You can expect them to last at least 50k pages with out repairs or maintenance. We use recycled toner cartridges which I have been told reduce the life of the fuser quite a bit. You can get internal or external network cards for them and hp gives you a utility to manage them over the lan. A trashed out printer is about 300 to fix. That includes all the rollers, gear drive train, fuser and cleaning. They do pcl, 600 dpi, serial, parallel, $150 for the nic, bi-communication and pretty much bullet proof. I install them and forget about them until they die. Stay away from Lexmark as the consumables will eat you up imho.
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    Re: Printer recommendations

    Those HP4's have a reputation for reliability, don't they! We have one in service now, and we have a newer model--the LaserJet 6, I believe--and we're quite happy with both machines. For the moment, though, we need to look for something to print color. We print very few photos, but a lot of our materials contain "spot color." Thanks for the recommendation.

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    Re: Printer recommendations

    Thanks for the recommendation! We might have to look at the 4000 series. Like most folks, we haven't kept really good records of either the number of copies we print nor the number of cartridges we've gone through.

    (As an aside, I should mention that we once tried cartridge refill kits, and we were all unimpressed.)

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    Re: Printer recommendations

    >> Like most folks, we haven't kept really good records of either the number of copies we print ...

    The test print (not the test page printout from the printer setup, but using the printer buttons I think) on HP printers gives you the page count.

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    Re: Printer recommendations

    Ah, now that's interesting! I'll have to try that. Thanks!

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    Re: Printer recommendations

    Leif,
    I have a HP 920c but I don't quite understand the difference mentioned in your post.

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    The test print (not the test page printout from the printer setup, but using the printer buttons I think) on HP printers gives you the page count.
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    Can you clarify? <img src=/S/doh.gif border=0 alt=doh width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Printer recommendations

    Right-Click a printer in your printers folder and select Properties >
    This leads to the set-up of the printer, including an option to print a test page as below.
    This is NOT where you get the info!

    I have two buttons on my HPLJ - if I press them both together for about 1 second, I get a "Self Test / Configuration" printout which lists, amongst other things, the page count, serial number, memory, and various default settings.
    On some other printers, I think you need to press and hold a button as you power up to get an equivalent printout - your manual should give some advice - your printer may not in fact store this info.
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    Re: Printer recommendations

    Thanks Leif,
    I understand now. Unfortunately, my HP doesn't give that much info, just test pic and font examples, etc.
    It must be the VW of HP printers.

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    Re: Printer recommendations

    Not sure about 920s, but the LaserJets have a test (older) or information (newer) menu that prints a couple of different configuration pages. It's on one of those.

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    Re: Printer recommendations

    Jeff,
    The 920c is of course, an Inkjet not Laserjet, so there isn't that much info given as Leif had suggested. It's realy no big deal, there is no problem with my 920, just interested in the total page count and how useful it would be. <img src=/S/compute.gif border=0 alt=compute width=40 height=20>

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