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    How to stop it booting up with Win Explorer

    Hi! This is my first post. [img]/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img] Every time I boot up my computer, it finishes up in by leaving me in Win Explorer showing all the folders on my C drive. I've looked in my start-up and other places to get this out of the boot-up line but I don't see where or how to get rid of it. I also looked in the taskbar and start menus, and startup folders for something to delete but there was nothing to delete about this. (Other than that it boots correctly and loads my mystery desktop screen. But it always finishes booting by leaving me in Win Explorer.) Thank you.

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    Re: How to stop it booting up with Win Explorer

    Have you perchance installed Norton Personal Firewall 2001?

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    Re: How to stop it booting up with Win Explorer

    Your first post? Welcome to the Lounge! <img src=/S/hugs.gif border=0 alt=hugs width=41 height=25>

    Have you tried looking at MSCONFIG yet? Click on Start - Run and then enter msconfig. Peek through all the things that are starting with your system at boot time. There is also a fairly detailed thread at Annoyances.org regarding this.

    It's almost certainly a dead shortcut or errant program that is causing it to happen - with MSCONFIG you can selectively disable startup items and see if it goes away. If MSCONFIG isn't your tool of choice, Joe Perez just posted a link to a nifty little program called AutoRuns. I'm a fan of SysInternals' software. Lastly, there is Mike Lin's Startup Control Panel which is easy to use and quite effective.

    Good luck...and let us know how you make out!
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    Re: How to stop it booting up with Win Explorer

    Yes, I have Norton Internet Security 2001 and personal firewall is enabled. Should I disable it?

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    Re: How to stop it booting up with Win Explorer

    Mark, thank you for the data re: msconfig. I am familiar with it and have run it but can't find anything there that could be causing this, believe me, I have un-clicked everything except Norton and "run","load" and "adobe gamma". I also tried to run sysedit but it says the program isn't there?!?!?!? How can you have Windows without any sysedit abilities?

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    Re: How to stop it booting up with Win Explorer

    Glad that Leif found that information for you. You could try disabling it, but you may need to completely uninstall it to make the problem go away. Do that as a test though, I certainly wouldn't run around "naked" (meaning without a firewall).

    How can you live without SYSEDIT? In this case, Microsoft targeted Windows ME at people who would never know what that tool was, let alone use it. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> So that much isn't a surprise. It would be there in the case of an upgrade, though - and you can do all the same things with a text editor, albeit in a much less convenient way.

    FWIW I would get rid of the Adobe Gamma Loader. If you notice a difference, anywhere, I would be surprised....one of these days I aim to find out just why Adobe thinks it's necessary!!
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    Re: How to stop it booting up with Win Explorer

    I ran autoruns....neat program [img]/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img] but the stuff below is what showed up. After it loads windows it loads "policies" and win explorer??? Is that the line that's the problem? I 'm not very knowledgeable in editing the registry so I don't know what to do about this...so I didn't DO anything except look at it.

    HKLMSOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWinlogonUserinit
    HKLMSOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionRunOnce
    HKLMSOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionRunOnceE x
    HKLMSOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionRun
    + C:PROGRA~1NORTON~1DEFALERT.EXE
    + C:PROGRA~1NORTON~1NAVAPW32.EXE /LOADQUIET
    HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionRun
    HKLMSOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionRunServi ces
    + "C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedScript BlockingSBServ.exe" -reg
    HKLMSOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionRunServi cesOnce
    HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionRunServi ces
    HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionRunServi cesOnce
    C:WINDOWSAll UsersStart MenuProgramsStartUp
    C:WINDOWSStart MenuProgramsStartUp
    + Adobe Gamma Loader.lnk -> C:PROGRA~1COMMON~1ADOBECALIBR~1ADOBEG~1.EXE
    HKLMSOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionShellSer viceObjectDelayLoad
    + WebCheck -> C:WINDOWSSYSTEMWEBCHECK.DLL
    + AUHook -> C:WINDOWSSYSTEMAUHOOK.DLL
    HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWindowsRun
    HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionWindowsLoad
    HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionPolicies ExplorerRun
    HKLMSOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionPolicies ExplorerRun
    HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionRunOnce
    HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionRunOnceE x
    C:WINDOWSwin.ini
    + ptsnoop.exe
    + C:WINDOWSSYSTEMcmmpu.exe

    And...should I turn off the personal firewall in my Norton?

    Thanks again, guys, for your help!

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    Re: How to stop it booting up with Win Explorer

    Thank you, Leif. If I get rid of Norton 2001 and upgrade to 2002 or 2003 would that work? Or is Norton itself the problem?

    Mark, I will get rid of the Adobe Gamma.

    Thanks again. [img]/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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    Re: How to stop it booting up with Win Explorer

    OK, so I disabled the firewall and the boot still ends up with my C drive folders greeting me in Win Explorer. FYI

    Sharon

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    Re: How to stop it booting up with Win Explorer

    Did you follow the link in my original post regarding a possible fix? What version of Norton Personal Firewall are you running?

    (If you want to isolate Norton firewall as the culprit, disable it and re-boot. That should quickly show you!)

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    Re: How to stop it booting up with Win Explorer

    It's not loading policies - when you look at the list that was generated, only the items with a "+" preceding them are loading. However, Windows does read all of those registry keys to determine what is supposed to execute at boot. Policies are used in corporate settings - what you are seeing in that list are registry keys, which are not too dissimilar from directories/folders in Windows.

    Thus, it appears that your startup items are:
    <UL>+ C:PROGRA~1NORTON~1DEFALERT.EXE
    + C:PROGRA~1NORTON~1NAVAPW32.EXE /LOADQUIET
    + "C:Program FilesCommon FilesSymantec SharedScript BlockingSBServ.exe" -reg
    + Adobe Gamma Loader.lnk -> C:PROGRA~1COMMON~1ADOBECALIBR~1ADOBEG~1.EXE
    + WebCheck -> C:WINDOWSSYSTEMWEBCHECK.DLL
    + AUHook -> C:WINDOWSSYSTEMAUHOOK.DLL
    + ptsnoop.exe
    + C:WINDOWSSYSTEMcmmpu.exe[/list]Most of these are Symantec services that are part of your software suite. If you've already disabled the firewall as Leif suggested, try removing the software completely through Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel - but again, don't go too long without some form of a firewall. Upgrading may solve the problem, but there are no promises - Symantec's article states that there is "no known fix" and they provide a registry patch as a workaround. The article Leif pointed you towards is definitely worth digging into. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
    -Mark

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    Re: How to stop it booting up with Win Explorer

    Wow! I ran the "delay" file that Leif had given me the link for and it handled the problem! Then I re-enabled the firewall just to see whether it would remain fixed or not...and it continues to work correctly even with the firewall on. It just boots up to the desktop!

    Thanks to both of you for your help. [img]/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

    Sharon

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