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    Goodbye Graffiti

    I'm probably the last to know, but, due to a lawsuit from Xerox, Palm will be abandoning Graffiti in the future, and replacing it with a simpler system, Jot. Just when I was getting the hang of it!

    Graffiti Press Article
    Palm's Jot Announcement
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    Re: Goodbye Graffiti

    What gets me is... I found Graffiti very easy to use. Sure a few of the characters were "different", but in general, it was easier to use a single stroke than the two required by Jot (as an article I read recently states).

    Oh well... I never really did like the Palm.... so I'm not going to complain about it for too long <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>.
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    Re: Goodbye Graffiti

    I still have some trouble with certain letters, and more trouble with puinctuation marks. But I expect that this is more about avoiding Xerox's licensing fees than about Jot's perceived superiority. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Goodbye Graffiti

    I own a Handspring TREO 90 and have a full keyboard. I tried to use Graffiti and failed. The keyboard looks tiny but typing with it is not bad.

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    Re: Goodbye Graffiti

    I have had "Graffiti 2" for several months now -- it's awful! I thought it was just a matter of getting used to it, but it's more than that. My last name is King and I can't make a K -- which is really frustrating! In Graffiti 1, I could enter stuff without even looking, and I knew it would be there. Now I have to look at what I'm doing, backup over the incorrect stuff and retype. Some of the letters take WAY more than two strokes because I do what I think I'm supposed to be doing, and I get garbage, backspace over it and try again -- sometimes it takes more than 2 tries. And I'm not a klutz with no motor control -- for years I was a professional calligrapher!

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    Re: Goodbye Graffiti

    Hey John, I can't get anywhere with either of your links. Is it just me or what?

    Speaking of just me, I've had a Palm m515 for three years now and can't even remember the abandoned product that I switched from. But, although I admit I didn't try very hard, I never have learned to master that graffiti stuff - maybe it's because I'm a southpaw! I don't really enter stuff that often when I'm out and about, usually doing it while sitting at the computer. But when I do have to enter something, it's usually just an appointment and I can do it pretty quickly with the stylus and the ABC-123 onscreen "keyboard."

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    Re: Goodbye Graffiti

    It could be that I posted the links to news articles over two years ago, Al. <img src=/S/blush.gif border=0 alt=blush width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    I have an m105 that's over four years old and still does what I need, but sooner or later I'm going to upgrade, I keep thinking about it but not doing it. I learned most of Graffiti, but still have to go to the on-screen keyboards to get several special characters.

    Info on Graffiti 2.
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    Re: Goodbye Graffiti

    Sheryl, you might want to check How to replace Graffiti 2 with Original Graffiti. I'm still using original Graffiti, so haven't tried it myself; it doesn't exactly look simple.

    BTW, did you ever get your problem in <!post=this thread,484192>this thread<!/post> solved? (Reply there if you have any advice to share.)
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    Re: Goodbye Graffiti

    The links worked fine for me. The article on how to replace Graffiti 2 with Original Graffiti looks like just what I was looking for -- and it doesn't look all that difficult. I got really excited, because I have a Sony Clie in the drawer. But it's pretty dead. I fired it up and recharged the battery, and I was all set to go. Except I can't get the darn thing to beam! So close and yet so far . . . .

    Sheryl

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    Re: Goodbye Graffiti

    Yeah. But I am reminded why I bought a new PDA -- the Clie was getting a bit flaky on me. I guess this is just another example!

    Sheryl

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    Re: Goodbye Graffiti

    Did you check under the Cli
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    Re: Goodbye Graffiti

    K is definitely the letter I've had the most trouble with in Graffitti 2, and I must admit I've had more trouble with Graffitti 2 than with the previous version. I don't really mind two-stroke characters, but some of the one-stroke characters were definitely easier.
    Charlotte

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    Re: Goodbye Graffiti

    Get ready, John. My m505 went belly up all of a sudden and I was left with no choice but to replace it. I found a relatively inexpensive Tungsten E and have been happy with it, in spite of relearning Graffitti 2 after mastering Graffitti 1. <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>
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    Re: Goodbye Graffiti

    I have heard good things about the Tungsten E. Did you find a low cost deal on a new one, or buy a used?
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    Re: Goodbye Graffiti

    It was a new one, but the TE is being replaced by the Tungsten E2, so there are some bargains available on the TE. Check around. The display is far superior to the M505, it has much more RAM and is roughly the same size. I never could successfully upgrade my 505 to Palm OS 5, so it was nice to get one that came with it. One minor drawback is that the "low end" Palms no longer come with cradles. They have completely separate plugs for power and sync and they sync through a USB connection.
    Charlotte

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