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    I need some help with something I don't understand

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29> Loungers

    Is there a lounge where people can ask security questions?

    Like virus threats or bugs in Windows or Office, you know what is going on in Cyber space?

    OK I get a HTML formatted message, and then when I open it via my Juno mail client software, ZoneAlarm tells me that Object 8000123a is trying to access the Internet, and if I should allow it.

    I did a Google search on Object 8000123a but did not get any hits.

    I have Ad-Aware on, and it did not detect anything so far.

    I know that this is some sort of a picture or link on my message, but I still don't know what it is doing?

    Any clue as to how to find out? I also need to add that once I deny it access Juno software stops working and I have to it shut down and re-launch it?

    Thanks for any hints. Oh BTW if there is no lounge, how do I start one?

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    Re: I need some help with something I don't understand

    >> Is there a lounge where people can ask security questions?

    Do you mean another place or a Forum within Woody's Lounge?
    If it is a general question, the General Windows Solutions would be the Forum.
    If it is regarding specific software, I would suggest Software Finds and Wants.

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    >> OK I get a HTML formatted message, and then when I open it via my Juno mail client software. . . . . Juno software stops working . . .

    This does not appear to be specifically W2K orientated - I will move this thread to Other Browsers & Email Clients.

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    >> BTW if there is no lounge, how do I start one?

    Do you mean a Lounge or a new Forum within this Lounge?
    The former will require webspace and software - search the Lounge Matters Forum for "software threads" for info on what is used here.
    If you wish to propose a new Forum for this Lounge, that should be posted in Lounge Matters.
    If you want to know why a Security Forum is unlikely to appear in Woody's Lounge, do a search in Lounge Matters for "security forum".

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    Re: I need some help with something I don't unders

    I don't use Juno, so I have Mailwasher on the front end of my process. As for HTML messages, my take is, if it isn't from someone I know and trust, I can it without even attempting to read it, because the liklihood is that it's some kind of advertisement, even if not malicious. As to your first two sentences, I don't think there's any ONE place you can get ALL the kind of answers you're looking for. That's how come so many of us "visit" so many different places (i.e. newsgroups, forums, etc.) on the web. IMHO

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    Re: I need some help with something I don't understand

    This might be an ActiveX object. Is IE your default browser? If it is, you might look under Tools | Internet Options | Settings | View Objects and look for a match to that name.

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    Re: I need some help with something I don't understand

    <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> Leif

    Sorry for posting in the wring lounge, I did not know where else to post.

    By a security lounge, I was hoping to find a lounge here at Woody's lounge where one can ask questions about viruses, hackings, spyware, and the likes.

    I am embarking on a career as a Computer Forensics Examiner, studying very hard, and I wanted to see if there was a lounge similar to what I have been studying.

    OK as to the lounge, I guess I meant a forum. A forum is = to a specific subject, such as Other Browsers & E-mail Clients, or Excel, and the group of these forums is called a lounge. OK I got the syntax now.

    I'll do the search and see what has been done so far.

    Thanks for your help.

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    Re: I need some help with something I don't understand

    Can you view the source code for the message? If so, search for anything similar to APPLET or OBJECT to see if you can find the embedded object. If the message source involves FRAMESET tags, then the object reference may be in one of the pages referred to in the FRAME tags.

    Generally speaking, there's no reason to allow objects to run in e-mail. Instead, ask the sender what the heck it was and see if you wanted to let it play on the Internet or not.

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    Re: I need some help with something I don't understand

    <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> Dean

    I followed your steps and all I found was Shockwave and Update Class.

    Now I noticed that I had one of the oprions, to check for the updated version of pages, set to automatic. I changed that to when I visit the page.

    I will see what that would do.

    I like Juno, but because its free, you don't get any technical support. I maybe forced soon to pay the $9.95 per month and get the premium service.

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    Re: I need some help with something I don't unders

    <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> Big Al

    I heard that Mailwasher will soon support Juno. My joy if that is true.

    The one bad thing about Juno mail software is that it gives you the preview of a message by default and there is no way to switch.

    Thanks

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    Re: I need some help with something I don't understand

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29> jscher2000

    No. I right mouse click and it does not give any options.

    I tried to save it as html and then scan through it using Notepad, but again the HTML code was not translated OK.

    I have changed some of the settings in IE, and I am waiting to see what is the effect.

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    Re: I need some help with something I don't understand

    I have been rethinking your original post. I, too, run the juno mail client. I have since it was first released back in, oh, 1995 or so. You say that if you deny internet access to this object then the juno software disconnects you from the internet. This seems to me like the ad banner part of the software. I know that if it cannot find a path to the internet it shuts down the connection. This may also be why it disconnects when you close that ad bar.

    To further postulate, I think that the object number you provided will change from time to time as the ad changes. Of course, not being part of their coding team I really can't speak with any authority.

    Allow me to ask another question. What happens when you view this email without having a connection to the internet? Does it attempt to dial automatically, produce the waring from ZoneAlarm, then display the message if you permit access and not display the message if you deny access? Regardless, I believe you are seeing Juno's profit protection routines playing out. Bandwidth and software development are not cheap and banner ads pay very, very little these days. They have to get something in return for giving away bandwidth and software, and in this case it's you viewing the ads.

    Incidentally, I have used their premium service in the past and found it to be reliable and open. I have a need to use Citrix from home to work and Juno's firewalls have that port open. MS Terminal Services, however, does not work.

    Good luck!

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    Re: I need some help with something I don't understand

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29> Dean

    Sorry for being late to answer you, I think you are onto something.

    Yes when I deny this object access, then as long as I have that Juno session active, I can't log on.

    I will need to close Juno and then restart it again to make it work.

    I am not sure if this is the ad banner. I checked the last time it happened and the ads were there. Maybe it was trying to update an ad, and when I restarted it did it automatically and that is why it works.

    Strange, but I have asked Zone Alarm not to allow access and not to ask me for it. I will see what goes on. So far so good.

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    Re: I need some help with something I don't understand

    Sorry No can do on the source.

    If I Righ-Mouse-Click I get a menu that does not have "View Source" or anything close to that.

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    Re: I need some help with something I don't understand

    Are you using Juno regular or Platinum?

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    Re: I need some help with something I don't understand

    Hi, shekerra ~

    Could you make the links live please? <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15>

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    Re: I need some help with something I don't understand

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