Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 23
  1. #1
    Star Lounger
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Posts
    59
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    My IE6 appears to have been 'bugged' by a cookie or somesuch. I have cleared out cookies, files and history from 'Internet Options', but if I then go to set a new homepage, again in Internet Options, as soon as I start an address typing I see a list of previously visited sites. I also see these when I type an address into the address bar. For example, when I get as far as typing 'www.y' it prompts for www.yell.com.

    Any suggestions for how to get rid of this. I have searched for .txt files and can't find anything relevant. I fear it might be something more sinister!

    Thanks, Laurie

  2. #2
    Super Moderator
    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Renton, Washington, USA
    Posts
    12,560
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts

    Re: Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    Go to the History folder using Windows Explorer and delete ALL entries. This should do it, but if you are using Windows XP you will need to remove them from the correct account, i.e., Cocuments and SettingsUserNameLocal SettingsHistory

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

  3. #3
    Silver Lounger
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Long Beach, California, USA
    Posts
    1,912
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    I am willing to wager that the Clear History button works fine. It has the added advantage of wiping out the TypedURL list as well.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  4. #4
    Super Moderator jscher2000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Silicon Valley, USA
    Posts
    23,112
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 93 Times in 89 Posts

    Re: Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    I think that "feature" is called AutoComplete, and it pops up in a lot of different places. Try visiting the AutoComplete... button on the Content tab in the Internet Options... dialog. I'm not sure which settings do what, but my guess is that it is the URL memory that is appearing in the home page box (and also appears when you type an address in the address bar). How this memory can survive clearing the history is a mystery to me. But then, really, I don't want to know badly enough to clear my own history. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

  5. #5
    Silver Lounger
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Long Beach, California, USA
    Posts
    1,912
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    It is a certain subset of AutoComplete which I believe is a subset of IntelliSense (or, as I believe Woody calls it, IntelliNonSense).

    This memory should NOT survive Clearing the History -- and I don't believe anyone ever said it did -- eh, accept you. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    Below is the image...

    What "Iexplore.exe" does at the level of the registry is the following:

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    OpenKey HKCRCLSID{3C374A40-BAE4-11CF-BF7D-00AA006946EE}InprocServer32
    QueryValueEx HKCRCLSID{3C374A40-BAE4-11CF-BF7D-00AA006946EE}InprocServer32 "C:WINDOWSSYSTEMSHDOCVW.DLL"
    QueryValueEx HKCRCLSID{3C374A40-BAE4-11CF-BF7D-00AA006946EE}InprocServer32ThreadingModel "Apartment"
    CloseKey HKCRCLSID{3C374A40-BAE4-11CF-BF7D-00AA006946EE}InprocServer32
    QueryValueEx HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerTypedURLs
    CloseKey HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerTypedURLs

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    So... you can see that "AutoComplete" for the Home Page text box works the exact same way as the Address bar (which is itself just a text box). They both derive AutoComplete entries from two places: the TypedURLs list and and the History folder. In case you wondered, that Class ID# is for none other than "Microsoft Url History Service" which then retrieves data from the index.dat files in your History and History.IE5 folders.

    So, as I stated above, manually clearing JUST the History folder(s) will NOT be completely successful. You must also clear the TypedURLs list. Notably, the "Clear History" button imaged above does EXACTLY that -- and that is what it was designed to do. I stand by my statement -- to clear the AutoComplete entries for the Home Page text box, use the Clear History button!<img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    Additionally, if you never want to see those again, go to Tools | Internet Options | Content | AutoComplete -- and remove the checkbox for "Web Addresses". This should stop the Address bar and the Home Page text box from giving you drop-down choices. You will note there is NO button in the AutoComplete dialog box to clear "Web Addresses" -- that is because it would be redundant. The button already exists elsewhere -- the "Clear History" button.<img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    There is ONE caveat that I purposefully glossed over. My recollection is that "Clear History" fails to clear TODAY'S History. So, any addresses visited today may still show up....

    THAT maybe to what you are referring -- if you "Clear History" via the button, today's "visited" links may still show up. However, if you begin a fresh with no visited URL's for 24 hours, open IE on a blank page (about:blank), and use the Clear History button -- then Clear History will clear everything.

    Or such is my memory!<img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> Cheers.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  6. #6
    Silver Lounger
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Long Beach, California, USA
    Posts
    1,912
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    Ah, you must be right. My memory is too fuzzy on this.

    I must be confusing the setting of the "Days to Keep" at "0" means that TODAY is still kept in the memory. Since today is day "0", it is OK to keep it around. Or something like that... <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

  7. #7
    Super Moderator jscher2000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Silicon Valley, USA
    Posts
    23,112
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 93 Times in 89 Posts

    Re: Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    > This memory should NOT survive Clearing the History -- and I don't believe anyone ever
    > said it did -- eh, accept you.

    Just going by <!post=the post to which I was responding,218872>the post to which I was responding<!/post>. <img src=/S/wink.gif border=0 alt=wink width=15 height=15>

  8. #8
    Silver Lounger
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Long Beach, California, USA
    Posts
    1,912
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    OUCH!!! Hard to argue that! <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> That will get me for not reading the post more thoroughly... <img src=/S/frown.gif border=0 alt=frown width=15 height=15>

    The History folder and the Home Page entries are cleared by the "Clear History" button -- eh, best I can tell and as you can see above -- so, I have to wonder if the first post is simply incorrect.

  9. #9
    Silver Lounger Bruce K's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Phoenix, Arizona, USA
    Posts
    1,876
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    Hi, R2 ~

    You did a great job of explaining this as clear as it can be, even with the query sequence!

    I would like to add a note in reference to your caveat. On this particular unit with XPP, I keep my 'Days to keep pages in history' set at '0'. Activating the 'Clear History' button does clear today's visited pages and any keyed URLs in the address bar.

    Ciao ~

  10. #10
    Star Lounger
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Posts
    59
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    Thanks for all your responses, they're all very interesting.

    However, your sugggested solution of using the Clear History button does not fix the problem. Nor does the Autocomplete solution. It's quite baffling actually because it's always the same list of (about 20) sites that appears, and some of the sites are ones I visited months ago.

    I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling IE and that didn't work!

    However, the idea about taking off Autocomplete for Web Addresses does stop the list appearing at all, so I've used that solution as a workaround.

    Laurie

    p.s. err, I'm actually male but don't worry I'm not sensitive about that sort of thing! I'm English you see.

  11. #11
    Silver Lounger
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Long Beach, California, USA
    Posts
    1,912
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    OK, then I think you have a corrupt History folder. If I take your post at face value, then that is the only answer.

    >>it's always the same list of (about 20) sites that appears, and some of the sites are ones I visited months ago.

    That tells me that you have a rogue "index.dat" file in your History folder. The "Clear History" does have a problem with clearing these residual or left over index.dat files. But I don't! <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    1) Tell us how many "days to keep pages in history" you have set under Tools | Internet Options | General | History.

    2) Open regedit and look at this key:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentV ersionInternet Settings5.0CacheExtensible Cache

    Either post an image of this key and it's sub-keys, or Export the key and paste the names of each of the sub-keys.
    ______________________________________

    This is only the beginning -- but I have to run for most of the day. The concept -- for anyone willing to help out -- is that Laurie has a folder in HistoryHistory.IE5 with an old date and in this folder is the rogue index.dat file. We need to delete this folder entirely.

    One quick solution would be to completely wipe out your History folder in DOS -- but you will lose your recent History that way. If you don't mind, try that.

    If you would prefer a 'surgical strike', I can get to that later.
    _____________

    FYI: I attached my Kill History Magic program that lets you see the index.dat files in Windows.
    Attached Files Attached Files

  12. #12
    Silver Lounger Bruce K's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Phoenix, Arizona, USA
    Posts
    1,876
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    Laurie ~

    Sorry about the gender assumption. I used the question mark to indicate my doubt.
    <hr>it's always the same list of (about 20) sites that appears, and some of the sites are ones I visited months ago.
    <hr>
    Hmmm....Laurie, would you humor me? Please open IE, click on 'Favorites'......I bet would bet that the addresses you are seeing correspond to items in your 'Favorites'. (You can hover your mouse over an entry to see the actual address).

  13. #13
    Silver Lounger
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Long Beach, California, USA
    Posts
    1,912
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    While the Favorites drop-down from the Address bar, they do not normally drop-down from the "Home Page" text box. If Favorites appeared as drop-downs in this box, then in my example below the "S" in the text box should have dropped down "Strunk, ..." -- but it did not.

    If these are sites that Laurie "visited" long ago but were never 'Favorites', then they are likely stuck in some long forgotten History index.dat file. That is the exact reason why I created the "Kill History Magic" program....

    I know you know the list of items that appear as drop-downs in the Address bar:

    1) The "My Computer" folder.
    2) The "Desktop" folder
    3) The "Favorites" folder (only the main folder -- not the sub-folders like "Links")
    4) The contents of the "Folders" Explorer bar (the narrow left window pane).
    5) Your History folder (URL's you have recently visited and stored in your History index.dat files)
    6) Previously Typed URL's (stored in your registry under "TypedURLs").
    (Full name: HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerTypedURLs)

    BUT... this is not the same list that appears in the Home Page drop-down list. That is normally limited to the last two items (5 and 6). If Laurie has clicked the "Clear History" button, then I am fairly certain the "TypedURLs" list is cleared (it is very easy to clear a registry key).

    HOWEVER, the History folder is not so easily cleared and is prone to errors. Therefore -- I have to go with the odds. The most likely answer at this point is a residual index.dat file stuck in an out-of-date History.IE5 sub-folder.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  14. #14
    Silver Lounger
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Long Beach, California, USA
    Posts
    1,912
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    While you can edit the History folder in DOS, many people don't like to use DOS -- and now many computers don't have DOS. So, to make editing this folder more convenient, I created the Kill History Magic 'applet'. As with all of my "applets", they are VERY simplistic and have one function.

    This is the user interface. I can see that I 'forgot' to give the form a better title than "Form 1" -- oops. <img src=/S/frown.gif border=0 alt=frown width=15 height=15> I put the 'disclaimer' there just to be safe, but in all honesty I have kept the History Magic 'off' for days at a time. However, this is REALLY just for diagnostic use -- it just lets you see inside the History folder. If you want to delete something in there, you can do it. And then you can simply "Restore" the magic and never use the program again.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  15. #15
    Silver Lounger
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Long Beach, California, USA
    Posts
    1,912
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Cookie Invasion (IE6)

    Lastly, this is a sample of how the History folder looks in the Explorer bar with the History Magic killed. You can now access the index.dat files -- for example, you can open them in Notepad and see their contents. Here is part of what is inside one of mine:

    Client UrlCache MMF Ver 5.2
    ...
    (My User Name)@http://www.wopr.com/cgi-bin/w3t/newreply.pl?Cat=&Board=ie&Number=220370&page=0&vie w=expanded&what=showflat&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

    Now, Laurie can use this tool to look into his History folder and look for outdated folders. They are usually named in this fashion:

    MSHist01YYYYMMDDYYYYMMDD

    ...where YYYY is the year, MM is the month, and DD is the day.

    I would look for an obviously old folder. Then, I would open the index.dat inside it and Search for one of those names that keep dropping down inappropriately. If there is no obviously old folder, I would be inclined to peek into each and every index.dat file and Search for one of those drop-down names. But then I am pretty compulsive...
    Attached Images Attached Images

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •