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    Word Document Gibbirish (XPP/Word 2002)

    I have opened probably a hundred thousand Word documents, but today I recieved one that I cannot seem to open without gibberish. Below is a screenshot with the message "Select the encoding that makes your document readable". I have never seen this and have tried a few of the offered options to no avail.

    What would cause this encounter and what can I do to make it readable? <img src=/S/scratch.gif border=0 alt=scratch width=25 height=29>
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    Re: Word Document Gibbirish (XPP/Word 2002)

    Well... the answer is right on the first line. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> BinHex is an encryption method used to make binary documents e-mailable; I think it's primarily used by Mac users. You can download a specific converter, but I think WinZip might be able to convert it. Long time since I've tried one.

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    Re: Word Document Gibbirish (XPP/Word 2002)

    Well, I guess that makes sense since the sender is a graphic artist running on Mac. The BinHex line was gibberish to me as well and thought it may have been part of the document. I guess I thought Word was Word.

    I followed the instructions for decoding BinHex with WinZip, but it claims it is an invalid archive.

    What do others do when getting a Word document from a sender on a Mac? <img src=/S/pcvmac.gif border=0 alt=pcvmac width=137 height=30>

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    Re: Word Document Gibbirish (XPP/Word 2002)

    I would try by downloading Stuffit Expander from Alladin Systems. It is the Mac equivalent of a WinZip unzipper and freeware. It should be able to decode and expand the file. Downloads at Alladin

    Another possible tool that purports to do the job.
    Andrew Lockton, Chrysalis Design, Melbourne Australia

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    Re: Word Document Gibbirish (XPP/Word 2002)

    I replied to the second copy of this post before I found this thread. If WinZip says this is an invalid archive that is probably because you have told it that this is a zip file, make sure the file extension is .HQX and try WinZip again.

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    Re: Word Document Gibbirish (XPP/Word 2002)

    Hi, Andrew ~

    I have Stuffit and it does not recognize Word document files. I checked out your link and tried it, but it is for e-mail messages and won't work with Word documents.

    I am attaching it in a Zip for any brave souls who may wish to see it or know how to decode a Mac WORD .doc.
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    Re: Word Document Gibbirish (XPP/Word 2002)

    Stuart ~

    You are a Prince! <IMG SRC=http://www.krymow.com/images/crown.gif>

    I changed the Word document extension from '.doc' to '.hqx' and opened it with WinZip! <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15>

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    Re: Word Document Gibbirish (XPP/Word 2002)

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by Phil Rabichow on 28-Jan-03 22:25. )</P>Hi Bruce:
    I was able to open the file directly with Word 2000 & also view it with Quick View Plus. I added a space & deleted it & then saved it. It did not even offer to save it in a different format, so I suspect it was a regular Word document. I have saved it as an .rtf file & zipped it.
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    Whoops! Spoke to soon. When I viewed it in Quick view plus, it was after I changed the extension & opened it in Winzip. From Winzip I could use the QV viewer & then open in Word. Once I changed the extension extracted it from Winzip, Word would open it.
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    Re: Word Document Gibbirish (XPP/Word 2002)

    <hr>I added a space & deleted it & then saved it<hr>
    Huh? Wha??? I don't know what the hell you think you are talking about, but it worked and I was able to open it no problemo! Thanks!

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    Re: Word Document Gibbirish (XPP/Word 2002)

    I both think & was talking about file formats. When you open a file in Word that started in a different format and make any modification, Word will offer to save it as a current version of a Word document. When I modified your document & saved it, Word did not make that offer. Hence, it was already in that format.

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    Re: Word Document Gibbirish (XPP/Word 2002)

    Hi, Phil ~

    I do understand that. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> I was merely expressing my joy at the quickness in your fix despite my being unable to reproduce the method. I was confused by the series of steps you undertook in your post and wanted to succeed in the same fashion for the sake of future reference if need be.

    Changing the MS Word document '.doc' extension to '.hqx' as Stuart suggested created a file that WinZip recognized as a valid archive and subsequently was able to decode it from BinHex native to the Mac from which is was created and sent.

    I tried changing the extension to '.rtf' as your post seemingly implied at first glance, but that didn't work and any combinations of opening the Word document for editing to save worked neither. However, after reviewing your post again and re-reading your edit addition, it seems you may have done what I did and, although you never specified, changed the extension to '.hqx' then opened it with WinZip and the result was a regular Word document. Finally, for which wasn't clear, you changed the Word document to '.rtf' from its '.doc' file format it was already in after extraction. Does this sound about right?

    See what a good night's sleep does for me? <IMG SRC=http://www.krymow.com/images/sunny.gif> I have retained the copy you attached since it is 7 times smaller in size. Thanks for your help!

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