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    Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    After my XPP system checked the two partitions on the hard drive, the paging file disappeared. When the system starts, XP displays a window there is no paging file or the paging file is too small. I have set up the paging file but it doesn't take. After the system restarts and I look at the Virtual Memory set up window, I see that there is a page file set up with sufficient space allocation. (Refer to the three attachments.)

    What's up?

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    Re: Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    That's weird. Could you try to let xp choose the pagefile size and see if it "takes"? I don't recall any other settings needed for the pf. Are you running any kind of memory management software? (just a guess...)

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    Re: Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    Thanks - I got the same results with XP choosing the pagefile size. No special memory management software running.
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    Re: Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    Have you tried to run chkdsk? Also, (but you've probably tried this, too) set the pf to "no paging file", click ok and reboot. Then try to set a pf again.

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    Re: Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    Al ~

    Do as jkipk said and set your paging file to '0', hit 'Set', 'OK', 'Apply', 'OK', reboot, defrag that drive, then select that drive to 'Custom size' and enter 384 in both 'Initial' & 'Maximum' size, hit 'Set', 'OK', 'Apply', 'OK', reboot, and you should be alright. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    Bruce,

    I tried all you and jkipk have recommended. One of the partitions was extremely fragmented. Anyway, after setting up a pagefile in one partition and then the other, I still have the same problem. When I logon, I get the "... restoring your personal settings," except that seems to go on forever and the disk status light stops blinking. Finally, I discovered that XP had buried a "Limited Virtual Memory" warning box behind the logon screen. I used fast task switching to bring it to the front - "Your system has no paging file, or the paging file is too small. To fix this problem, ..." Click Okay and startup continues and completes.

    I have to kill a number of processes to be able to even use IE. When I go to look at the VM settings, first XP tells me that it had to set up a temporary paging file (see original post above) and then shows that, indeed, a page file is set up with the Min/Max size set as 384MB (see attachment).

    This is very strange, infuriating and has rendered my laptop useless.

    Other ideas?

    P.S. Isn't there a registry entry that I can zap that XP will regenerate the next time it reboots?
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    Re: Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    Hi, Al ~

    I don't mean to ask a stupid question, but just want to make sure......you are hitting the 'Set' button after entering both values, yes? I just find it odd the allocation to show '0MB'.
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    Re: Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    Yep - pressed "Set" every time.

    There's no such thing as a stupid question - only the ones that aren't asked are stupid.

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    Re: Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    OK got it (I think) I could have sworn this wasn't there when I looked last night. Seems to address your problem. I'll let you delve in, and report back...http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...kb;en-us;140472

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    Re: Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    Al--
    There are some additional KB's that are right in the same ball park as the one Kip found for you. What is puzzling is why this happens all of a sudden for no apparent reason--but I believe that's explained at the bottom of the first KB below under "More Information" . Between the two of them you should be quickly fixed.
    1) 315270 Error Message: Your System Has No Paging File, or the Paging File is Too Small
    2) It's predecessor for Win 2K and NT 259151 Paging File Functionality Requires System Account Permissions and Proper Size

    See also:

    3) 257758 Fix "Limited Virtual Memory" Error Message When You Start Your Computer

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    Re: Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    First of all, many thanks for the KB library searches that yielded the article references above.

    Report back ...

    After following the KB procedure articulated in KB article 315270 (referenced above) and trying the pagefile first in one partition, then in the other partition and finally in both partitions, I am still stuck with no paging file.

    I didn't think that the permissions route would (could) make any difference because (a) I never changed them on the volume and ([img]/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif[/img] when I followed the 315270 procedure, both the Administrators and System accounts already had full rights.

    I also checked the registry and the values that I set using the VM window are the same ones in the registry. I did this a couple of times using different values and different partitions to be sure. In addition, I even tried creating a new sub-root directory and specifying that directory for the paging file as articulated in KB article 140472 (referenced above).

    No paging file - No way. No how.

    I haven't had time to do more research to see if there's another route other than reinstalling XPP + SP1 - ugh! A quick search with Google yielded another route. It seems that some Intel chipsets can cause this same behavior.

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    Re: Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    Well, I'm sure jumping in here late, Al and up front admit that I don't know the answer to this stinker. But out of curiosity, would it be worth a try to set ONE page file and make it bigger, like 800 or 900 meg to see if that will STOP the error? If it does, then maybe you can go from there. Hang in.....

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    Re: Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    Sorry if I missed it above, but have you tried clearing the pagefile at shutdown? (Top key option in the graphic in Post 222007 above - set it to 1.)

    Have you tried allowing Windows to set it's own PF automatically?
    Have you tried setting a PF in C: and D: at the same time?

    I came across this at Powerquest - but I'm not sure how applicable it may be to your situation.

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    Re: Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by Leif on 06-Feb-03 18:18. to reduce graphic size.)</P>Attached is my registry at the same place. You can see that while your SystemPages is (0), mine is (503808), and that xp has set you up with a temp pagefile. We know WHAT it is doing, just not WHY or HOW

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    Re: Lost Paging File (XP-Pro, SP1)

    I came across a couple of sites - (e.g. this one) - which suggest deleting the TempPageFile entry.

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