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    msconfig cant find

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29> I use RUN>msconfig on my 98SE machine to get rid of some of the programs that run at start up, however I cannot see the option to remove these programs, only to stop them from showing up in the system tray. Is there an option to remove the shortcut?
    Also, the elderly lady I helped setup a 2nd hand machine she purchased which has 98SE on it, but no 98 disc, I cannot get msconfig to run at all, nor will it locate msconfig.exe - any thoughts?

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    Re: msconfig cant find

    <IMG SRC=http://www.krymow.com/images/tongue2.gif> Hi, Cyber!

    You should be able to copy the 'msconfig.exe' file from your computer in C:WINDOWSSystem folder or your Win98 CD and then copy it to the C:WindowsSystem folder on the 2nd machine.

    If you want to remove progz that run at start up, navigate to C:WINDOWSStart MenuProgramsStartup folder and simply delete any offenders and reboot. If you have others that need be removed that are not lurking in that folder, post back and I will outline a registry edit.

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    Re: msconfig cant find

    The items that show up on the msconfig startup tab are items that are either in:
    1. startup folder
    2. Run (HKLM & HKCU)
    3. Run Services
    4. I think RunOnce

    If you uncheck them the shortcut is moved from startup to disabled startup items and the corresponding Run- keys in the registry. It has nothing to do with removing the application itself---it just stops it from loading at startup. There are some applications (& viruses) that have the ability to place themselves in the Run keys or startup folders.
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    Re: msconfig cant find

    Hi Phil, thank you, I figured this out when I first used msconfig to remove items from the system tray, it certainly did what I wanted, my machine is as you describe, the icons removed without deleting the programs. (Which is great). Now I wanted to take it a step further, not on my machine actually, but an elderly lady's laptop I am helping her with, it has a couple of unnecessary programs which have self extracted and installed when she has downloaded something else, there are shortcuts in her system tray, so I tried msconfig to at least disable them, which is when I ran into the problem. I will certainly try the options you mention, failing that I will navigate to the folder Bruce posted, and try to locate the unwanted programs there. Appreciate the swift response Phil, thanks again. <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15>

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    Re: msconfig cant find

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29> Hi Bruce, thank you for that information, between you and Phil I am sure I can solve the problem with the 98 laptop, I did not know that msconfig had to be installed, thought it would have been standard with the O/S, Ill be sure to locate and copy it into the laptop. (Have found the folder you mention on my machine). <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    I am seeing the lady tomorrow, she has been having a ball with her first online computer. It is delightful to see an elderly person take to the internet so fast and have fun doing it, particularly (as you know) she lost her husband recently. I enjoy helping her, as she is so excited at being able to do things she has only heard about and not understood. Many thanks for the help Bruce, as always I am grateful. <img src=/S/clapping.gif border=0 alt=clapping width=19 height=23>

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    Re: msconfig cant find

    Here's another thing to check. In the event MSCONFIG just might be on the laptop, you could open Explorer and search the Windows folder for it. Usually there are several files in addition to the MSCONFIG.EXE but you might just find it IS still there. If that's the case, it could be a problem with the PATH command not being set up correctly, enabling Windows to find the program. To check that, open a DOS window and type SET and press enter. This will show you a list of what's called the environment variables. There should be a line there somewhere that says: PATH C:WINDOWS C:WINDOWSCOMMAND and maybe other things as well. If you don't find it, post back and we'll talk about how to fix it.

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    Re: msconfig cant find

    As a side note, the "Startup" tab on MSConfig is a simple "Startup Editor". There are several free third-party applets out that that are superior to the utility MS gives you, so you may want to try one of those.

    One caveat - don't use multiple different methods on any one box. If you are using MSConfig, stick with it or you can get confused....

    Startup Programs

    Mike Lin's Startup Control Panel and PC Forrest's StartMan are well-known choices.

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    Re: msconfig cant find

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29> Hi Al and R2, I am glad to have both of your postings before I go over to see the lady tomorrow. Dos Al? Me in Dos, hey you should know better than to ask me to play around in DOS! <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> At least I know how to get into it, if all else fails I will certainly have a look for the path you mention. Though I use the Dos prompt to get into telnet, I am terribly ignorant of it. I cannot even figure out how to clean up my Dos screen when it loads before windows, the best I can do is stop it and have a read! Hey, that is pretty good for me (can hear you muttering at me from here, grumble, groan, grunt). Wish I had your background and experience. Can you just send me your brain please?

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    Re: msconfig cant find

    Hi R2, thank you as well, every tiny bit of information is always useful to me, I will know now not to use several different commands after I hit Run, heaven knows I would have done exactly that had you not warned me. Appreciate the web sites. You people are so great! Can I have your brain too? <img src=/S/clever.gif border=0 alt=clever width=15 height=15>

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    Re: msconfig cant find

    Aw, you won't have any trouble! In the attachment, SET is what I typed. You're looking for the PATH statenent, which uses semicolon to separate the different folders. Sometimes it gets lost and it's not a major big deal to fix it.
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    Re: msconfig cant find

    >>I will know now not to use several different commands after I hit Run, heaven knows I would have done exactly that had you not warned me.

    Sorry, I was not clear. Don't use multiple different "Startup Managers". If you decide to use MSConfig, use that. If you decide on StartMan, use that. Don't try to use several similar Startup Managers.

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    Re: msconfig cant find

    Yes R2 I did understand what you meant, don't worry I will stick with msconfig, have copied the file from my machine onto a floppy and will try installing it onto the laptop, if that fails then I'll try downloading one of the programs from the sites you posted, (they look good actually). Appreciate the clarification, hopefully I will get it right thanks to you folks. <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15>

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    Re: msconfig cant find

    Hey thanks Al, thats a very clear screenshot, even I understand it!! Have copied it, now I know what to do if I need to. That picture sure made things look easy and simple. Thank you for taking the time to post it for me, you are a champion!

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